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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id dh7si11100084edb.531.2020.07.05.11.00.17; Sun, 05 Jul 2020 11:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@wowana.me header.s=default header.b=Ye8SGNdc; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727927AbgGESAN (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 5 Jul 2020 14:00:13 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36916 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727856AbgGESAK (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Jul 2020 14:00:10 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 564 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at lindbergh.monkeyblade.net; Sun, 05 Jul 2020 11:00:09 PDT Received: from mx1.volatile.bz (mx1.volatile.bz [IPv6:2001:67c:2db8:301:138:0:101:1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1F2AC061794 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mahin.wowana.me (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:2db8:301:1845::2]) by mx1.volatile.bz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B94DF4E7; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 17:50:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=wowana.me; s=default; t=1593971441; bh=bSmlbJyHSCXLfi+Y6gH6+D6+oj2SR366tyTPTaadWy4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=Ye8SGNdcjLPDZsaSQcm65BclPp1Q4z1zdGR4HRjwcDJ+MQFHZDa53Jilbamfb8Wtw 3XZunKgbB2GzDEcOsoWWXDz8y0DJMXU4SjyVGvluekEX0eVVauHG8NHqTaomq6Zq5R AC2DvGzMSPl42Sd9FAp9uRtjySWuCXzNShDb5TKY= Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 17:50:31 +0000 From: opal hart To: Dave Airlie Cc: Dan Williams , Linus Torvalds , Chris Mason , Greg Kroah-Hartman , tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, LKML , ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Message-ID: <20200705175031.4d7fa711@mahin.wowana.me> In-Reply-To: References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <1593897917.7058.11.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Organization: Volatile X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: &TPnio^VF7_~k^se;yA:fep*U;:Kzv1Q3'cYEY/#q"NyebT}po2wD}dNr}JF,f?%"Dh}(dq1C(0[dS`.(SJ2CDil=W'B9>O7p^P-+|v6Tj}|EJg8.&>YXtniHyR:=nf1,HE(NWu#C.GW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:39:29 +1000 Dave Airlie wrote: > I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people > need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be > inclusive" doesn't work. Which people? because so far the only people I've seen take these terminologies out of computing context, are those who are only voicing their "concern" out of bad faith, as well as those who fall for the concern-trolling bait. The meta-discussion serves to stir up noise and waste time that's better spent on other things. History pains, sure, but I believe it serves no justice to erase every trace of bad things that happened in history. That includes use of words tangentially related to such events. -- wowaname