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McKenney" Cc: Marco Elver , Nick Desaulniers , Sami Tolvanen , Masahiro Yamada , Will Deacon , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Kees Cook , clang-built-linux , Kernel Hardening , linux-arch , Linux ARM , Linux Kbuild mailing list , LKML , linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/22] add support for Clang LTO Message-ID: <20200706182926.GH4800@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20200701114027.GO4800@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200701140654.GL9247@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200701150512.GH4817@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200701160338.GN9247@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200702082040.GB4781@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200702175948.GV9247@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200703131330.GX4800@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200703144228.GF9247@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200706162633.GA13288@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200706162633.GA13288@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:26:33AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > And perhaps more constructively, we do need to prioritize address and data > dependencies over control dependencies. For one thing, there are a lot > more address/data dependencies in existing code than there are control > dependencies, and (sadly, perhaps more importantly) there are a lot more > people who are convinced that address/data dependencies are important. If they do not consider their Linux OS running correctly :-) > For another (admittedly more theoretical) thing, the OOTA scenarios > stemming from control dependencies are a lot less annoying than those > from address/data dependencies. > > And address/data dependencies are as far as I know vulnerable to things > like conditional-move instructions that can cause problems for control > dependencies. > > Nevertheless, yes, control dependencies also need attention. Today I added one more \o/