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Tue, 7 Jul 2020 06:56:53 +0000 From: "Harrosh, Boaz" To: Kees Cook , Andy Lutomirski CC: ksummit , Greg Kroah-Hartman , LKML , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Chris Mason Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Thread-Topic: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Thread-Index: AQHWUkBlJd1sexqy50W93WQXawjffKj6wNEAgADhVoCAAAxEiw== Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 06:56:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> ,<202007062234.A90F922DF@keescook> In-Reply-To: <202007062234.A90F922DF@keescook> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: chromium.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;chromium.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=netapp.com; x-originating-ip: [2a00:a040:196:431d:6203:64fa:e313:fb47] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 1e8fa0c7-358d-420a-3d0d-08d82242ee58 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DM6PR06MB5740: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:6430; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: netapp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DM6PR06MB3836.namprd06.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1e8fa0c7-358d-420a-3d0d-08d82242ee58 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Jul 2020 06:56:53.3272 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4b0911a0-929b-4715-944b-c03745165b3a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: YDGzrmEYiarlYFpye73Y05rK3pi5kONBuYBkh2mobCqJE4Sfn7pz38MjBYFRVoSBrCalvkW4O4a2NEbcsAHPOg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR06MB5740 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Kees Cook wrote:=0A= > I have struggled with this as well. The parts of speech change, and my=0A= > grammar senses go weird. whitelist =3D adjective noun. allow-list =3D ver= b=0A= > noun. verbing the adj/noun combo feels okay, but verbing a verb/noun is= =0A= > weird.=0A= =0A= > And just using "allowed" and "denied" doesn't impart whether it refers=0A= > to a _single_ instance or a _list_ of instances.=0A= =0A= > But that's all fine. The change is easy to do and is more descriptive=0A= > even if I can't find terms that don't collide with my internal grammar=0A= > checker. ;)=0A= =0A= But why. In English many times a verb when it comes before the noun means a= n adjective, or an adjective like, describing some traits of the noun.=0A= Example: =0A= I work - work is a verb here.=0A= I used the work bench. - Work is saying something about the type of bench, = an adjective. Same as you would say "I used the green bench".=0A= =0A= I am not an English native at all but allow-list sounds totally English to = me. (I guess the very correct English way is "allowed-list" where the past= tense may convert the verb to a noun. but allow-list sounds very good to m= e as well. Say work-list as opposed to vacation-list do you need to say wor= ked-list? I don't think so.)=0A= =0A= run mate, running mate. cutting board. these are all examples of verbs used= as adjectives. Are they not English? What am I missing I would like to lea= rn?=0A= =0A= Thanks=0A= Boaz=0A=