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[73.241.114.122]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v10sm8762192pfc.118.2020.07.08.04.00.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 08 Jul 2020 04:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 04:00:53 -0700 From: Richard Cochran To: Vladimir Oltean Cc: Sergey Organov , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Fugang Duan , "David S. Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , andrew@lunn.ch Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] net: fec: properly support external PTP PHY for hardware time stamping Message-ID: <20200708110053.GC9080@hoboy> References: <20200706142616.25192-1-sorganov@gmail.com> <20200706142616.25192-2-sorganov@gmail.com> <20200706150814.kba7dh2dsz4mpiuc@skbuf> <87zh8cu0rs.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <20200706154728.lfywhchrtaeeda4g@skbuf> <87zh8cqyrp.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <20200707070437.gyfoulyezi6ubmdv@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200707070437.gyfoulyezi6ubmdv@skbuf> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:04:37AM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > > > We do it like this: > > > - DSA: If there is a timestamping switch stacked on top of a > > > timestamping Ethernet MAC, the switch hijacks the .ndo_do_ioctl of the > > > host port, and you are supposed to use the PTP clock of the switch, > > > through the .ndo_do_ioctl of its own (virtual) net devices. This > > > approach works without changing any code in each individual Ethernet > > > MAC driver. > > > - PHY: The Ethernet MAC driver needs to be kind enough to check whether > > > the PHY supports hw timestamping, and pass this ioctl to that PHY > > > while making sure it doesn't do anything stupid in the meanwhile, like > > > also acting upon that timestamping request itself. > > > > > > Both are finicky in their own ways. There is no real way for the user to > > > select which PHC they want to use. The assumption is that you'd always > > > want to use the outermost one, and that things in the kernel side always > > > collaborate towards that end. Vladimir, your explanations in this thread are valuable. Please consider converting them into a patch to expand Documentation/networking/timestamping.rst Thanks, Richard