Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932417AbWEBG57 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 May 2006 02:57:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932419AbWEBG56 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 May 2006 02:57:58 -0400 Received: from mtagate3.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.152]:55148 "EHLO mtagate3.de.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932417AbWEBG55 (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 May 2006 02:57:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 08:57:55 +0200 From: Heiko Carstens To: Jeff Dike Cc: Blaisorblade , user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bodo Stroesser Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [RFC] PATCH 3/4 - Time virtualization : PTRACE_SYSCALL_MASK Message-ID: <20060502065755.GB9482@osiris.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> References: <200604131720.k3DHKqdr004720@ccure.user-mode-linux.org> <200604261747.54660.blaisorblade@yahoo.it> <20060426154607.GA8628@ccure.user-mode-linux.org> <200604282228.46681.blaisorblade@yahoo.it> <20060429084907.GD9463@osiris.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> <20060501170233.GC4592@ccure.user-mode-linux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060501170233.GC4592@ccure.user-mode-linux.org> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r802 (Linux) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2125 Lines: 65 > This sounds more complicated than what we are proposing. > > This would make the process care about the number of system calls > implemented by the kernel, which is something that doesn't even come > up in the normal case with the current interface. You only care about > it if you get a -EINVAL and want to figure out exactly why. > > From a practical point of view, you would want code that looks like > this: Yes. [1] > n = nsyscalls(); > mask = malloc((n + 7)/8); > if(mask == NULL) > return; > > /* Zero mask, set bits, call ptrace */ > > free(mask); > [2] > rather than code like this: > > int mask[(BIGGEST_SYSCALL_I_CARE_ABOUT + 7) / 8]; > > /* Zero mask, set bits, call ptrace */ > That doesn't seem like an improvement to me. > > The second case would be more complicated if it wanted to figure out > what the problem was if ptrace returned -EINVAL. However, some users That is actually my point. If you're checking for errors you will end up first doing [2] and later on doing something like [1] anyway... > > In addition your proposal would already introduce a rather complicated > > interface to figure out how many syscalls the kernel has. I'm sure this > > will be (mis)used sooner or later. > > How? And, if so, why is that a problem? >From the proposal: > Semantics: > > in both cases, the mask is first zero-extended to the right (for syscalls not > known to userspace), bits for syscall not known to the kernel are checked and > the call fails if any of them is 1, and in the failure case E2BIG or > EOVERFLOW is returned (I want to avoid EINVAL and ENOSYS to avoid confusion) > and the part of the mask known to the kernel is 0-ed. So you just need to pass a large enough bitmask with all ones and the kernel will put zeroes in the bitmask up to the bit number NR_sycalls - 1. Counting the zeroes should work... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/