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[24.9.64.241]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n6sm578331otq.33.2020.07.09.09.01.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jul 2020 09:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Tibor Raschko Cc: Dan Williams , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason , Shuah Khan References: <79214066-3886-e0ef-f26e-8cb3d53404be@linuxfoundation.org> <20200709124327.369781a0@coco.lan> From: Shuah Khan Message-ID: <93fc3afb-8c3f-0fb9-3b92-adfb6571e060@linuxfoundation.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:01:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200709124327.369781a0@coco.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 7/9/20 4:43 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:58:21 +0200 > Tibor Raschko escreveu: > >>> Allowlist/denylist terms are intuitive and action based which have a >>> globally uniform meaning. >> >> Nobody has a problem understanding "blacklist" and "whitelist". These >> are universally understood words even outside of computing. Claiming >> that we need clearer alternatives is smoke and mirrors. > > Actually, as a non-native English speaker, the first time I saw > "list", I had to do some research in order to understand what it > means :-) Thanks for the perspective. This is why we need clear and uniform words. Our community is global. English isn't English everywhere either. > > That reminds me: what about "graylist"? > > For coherency, if "blacklist/whitelist" won't be used anymore, an > alternative to graylist should also be provided. > > Right now, it seems that only ACPI uses it: > > $ git grep -i graylist > drivers/clocksource/acpi_pm.c:static void acpi_pm_check_graylist(struct pci_dev *dev) > drivers/clocksource/acpi_pm.c: acpi_pm_check_graylist); > drivers/clocksource/acpi_pm.c: acpi_pm_check_graylist); > What is "graylist"? Does it mean in between allow/deny? thanks, -- Shuah