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Bolarinwa" , bjorn@helgaas.com, Shuah Khan , linux-pci , linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linuxfoundation.org, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Greg Ungerer , Geert Uytterhoeven , Russell King , Boris Ostrovsky , Juergen Gross , Thomas Bogendoerfer , Michael Ellerman , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Paul Mackerras , linuxppc-dev , "David S. Miller" , sparclinux , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Heiner Kallweit , Jakub Kicinski , Keith Busch , Jens Axboe , Christoph Hellwig , Sagi Grimberg , Lorenzo Pieralisi , Rob Herring , Bjorn Helgaas , Kevin Hilman , Philipp Zabel , Jingoo Han , Gustavo Pimentel , Toan Le , Ray Jui , Scott Branden , Ley Foon Tan , Marek Vasut Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86 Message-ID: <20200714184550.GA397277@bjorn-Precision-5520> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [trimmed the cc list; it's still too large but maybe arch folks care] On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 05:08:10PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:22 PM Saheed O. Bolarinwa > wrote: > > This goal of these series is to move the definition of *all* > > PCIBIOS* from include/linux/pci.h to arch/x86 and limit their use > > within there. All other tree specific definition will be left for > > intact. Maybe they can be renamed. > > > > PCIBIOS* is an x86 concept as defined by the PCI spec. The > > returned error codes of PCIBIOS* are positive values and this > > introduces some complexities which other archs need not incur. > > I think the intention is good, but I find the series in its current > form very hard to review, in particular the way you touch some > functions three times with trivial changes. Instead of > > 1) replace PCIBIOS_SUCCESSFUL with 0 > 2) drop pointless 0-comparison > 3) reformat whitespace > > I would suggest to combine the first two steps into one patch per > subsystem and drop the third step. I agree. BUT please don't just run out and post new patches to do this. Let's talk about Arnd's further ideas below first. > ... > Maybe the work can be split up differently, with a similar end > result but fewer and easier reviewed patches. The way I'd look at > the problem, there are three main areas that can be dealt with one > at a time: > > a) callers of the high-level config space accessors > pci_{write,read}_config_{byte,word,dword}, mostly in device > drivers. > b) low-level implementation of the config space accessors > through struct pci_ops > c) all other occurrences of these constants > > Starting with a), my first question is whether any high-level > drivers even need to care about errors from these functions. I see > 4913 callers that ignore the return code, and 576 that actually > check it, and almost none care about the specific error (as you > found as well). Unless we conclude that most PCI drivers are wrong, > could we just change the return type to 'void' and assume they never > fail for valid arguments on a valid pci_device* ? I really like this idea. pci_write_config_*() has one return value, and only 100ish of 2500 callers check for errors. It's sometimes possible for config accessors to detect PCI errors and return failure, e.g., device was removed or didn't respond, but most of them don't, and detecting these errors is not really that valuable. pci_read_config_*() is much more interesting because it returns two things, the function return value and the value read from the PCI device, and it's complicated to check both. Again it's sometimes possible for config read accessors to detect PCI errors, but in most cases a PCI error means the accessor returns success and the value from PCI is ~0. Checking the function return value catches programming errors (bad alignment, etc) but misses most of the interesting errors (device was unplugged or reported a PCI error). Checking the value returned from PCI is tricky because ~0 is a valid value for some config registers, and only the driver knows for sure. If the driver knows that ~0 is a possible value, it would have to do something else, e.g., another config read of a register that *cannot* be ~0, to see whether it's really an error. I suspect that if we had a single value to look at it would be easier to get right. Error checking with current interface would look like this: err = pci_read_config_word(dev, addr, &val); if (err) return -EINVAL; if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val)) { /* if driver knows ~0 is invalid */ return -EINVAL; /* if ~0 is potentially a valid value */ err = pci_read_config_word(dev, PCI_VENDOR_ID, &val2); if (err) return -EINVAL; if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val2)) return -EINVAL; } Error checking with a possible interface that returned only a single value could look like this: val = pci_config_read_word(dev, addr); if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val)) { /* if driver knows ~0 is invalid */ return -EINVAL; /* if ~0 is potentially a valid value */ val2 = pci_config_read_word(dev, PCI_VENDOR_ID); if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val2)) return -EINVAL; } Am I understanding you correctly? > For b), it might be nice to also change other aspects of the > interface, e.g. passing a pci_host_bridge pointer plus bus number > instead of a pci_bus pointer, or having the callback in the > pci_host_bridge structure. I like this idea a lot, too. I think the fact that pci_bus_read_config_word() requires a pci_bus * complicates things in a few places. I think it's completely separate, as you say, and we should defer it for now because even part a) is a lot of work. I added it to my list of possible future projects. Bjorn