Received: by 2002:a25:e74b:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id e72csp218586ybh; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxkS1cNKNx8HKLcSHzZlRaxWmzE7eL7OBqp2mlpa0XevwHaxCvGNCHUuXT1l/hh7Uh8BG5K X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:4341:: with SMTP id z1mr7709895ejm.392.1594794908560; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1594794908; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=QuwL6BtVVOVS2K+GPXGxmDbqf6Upt6pcDXq9PMNiyD0/tHYPijCfOBxlHkcxtPrL4Y MeHGRoEQClE2KXmMhyRw2mNKEcWvVD04nKBXI3+2Rzy28yVA+npTiBpSFLRCLtN63oym 1QZyWo1dS6BXrAazSv9ZFgcuLcHvn3jAatCD3NxapM3WQ9PLdV4OYrxhIx2dXiPjUj2L yfHgLOpgtMKby8iifnxebyYeZcQnyLmyeAfDaUGFxdF3QZH3B7onL2W0rZ42Y/ZkwPi3 U3hfLSwlG3380Wlao/y1GKu/kJcWC5xpxD7SjVhI7sOUnd0U4RHuvDKUceipm4IKni05 7JQw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:date :references:subject:cc:to:from; bh=ZNDgP5JAfVgbn2uNxxkQDjW/xYQg2pGl/KX51iQXSb8=; b=ke50t61ylBR56WauCKiKp4L4GOa6azoFATWO6y1umwxmibgx3xmElpDuRtFzbsmFWg hQwkX0fhRgNv3fjhGrhAnJ5W8Yja8G5d7u1ngNB6AObUdg67btNxrmmLjetYbvo/Rou8 s9gzPp3xRtZF3B2J/jA7snEOeTipE12mKh2eDs1nMPCD6a1s4tc32FH56kZESNuEnEXq 0awnwG+4ClkH9nUJOiKok0nFO6jkS5ZJvd28TmfRL6hNdPpvbVguKQGPtSrr6EjOZBYb PHGZHV8zuoKlNdmQSw9KSXZCkzIb3S0Fu6EvzatKEI39ZdUzCYQ6RO0SKS7Ixv415/qT JgQg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b13si931130edz.152.2020.07.14.23.34.44; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728006AbgGOGdk (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:33:40 -0400 Received: from albireo.enyo.de ([37.24.231.21]:44584 "EHLO albireo.enyo.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725823AbgGOGdj (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:33:39 -0400 Received: from [172.17.203.2] (helo=deneb.enyo.de) by albireo.enyo.de with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1jvayt-0000Pz-3w; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 06:33:27 +0000 Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jvawb-00039g-W6; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 08:31:05 +0200 From: Florian Weimer To: Chris Kennelly Cc: Peter Oskolkov , Mathieu Desnoyers , Peter Oskolkov , Peter Zijlstra , linux-kernel , Thomas Gleixner , paulmck , Boqun Feng , "H. Peter Anvin" , Paul Turner , linux-api , Christian Brauner , carlos Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] rseq: Allow extending struct rseq References: <20200714030348.6214-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> <20200714030348.6214-3-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> <775688146.12145.1594748580461.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 08:31:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Chris Kennelly's message of "Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:34:38 -0400") Message-ID: <87k0z5xpau.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Chris Kennelly: > When glibc provides registration, is the anticipated use case that a > library would unregister and reregister each thread to "upgrade" it to > the most modern version of interface it knows about provided by the > kernel? Absolutely not, that is likely to break other consumers because an expected rseq area becomes dormant instead. > There, I could assume an all-or-nothing registration of the new > feature--limited only by kernel availability for thread > homogeneity--but inconsistencies across early adopter libraries would > mean each thread would have to examine its own TLS to determine if a > feature were available. Exactly. Certain uses of seccomp can also have this effect, presenting a non-homogeneous view.