Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751202AbWEEUGr (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 May 2006 16:06:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751513AbWEEUGq (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 May 2006 16:06:46 -0400 Received: from dvhart.com ([64.146.134.43]:57823 "EHLO dvhart.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751202AbWEEUGq (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 May 2006 16:06:46 -0400 Message-ID: <445BB050.4040309@mbligh.org> Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 13:06:40 -0700 From: Martin Bligh User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051011) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nuri Jawad Cc: Dave Jones , Martin Mares , Pavel Machek , dtor_core@ameritech.net, Linux Kernel Subject: Re: Remove silly messages from input layer. References: <20060504024404.GA17818@redhat.com> <20060504071736.GB5359@ucw.cz> <445A18D8.1030502@mbligh.org> <20060504183840.GE18962@redhat.com> <20060505103123.GB4206@elf.ucw.cz> <20060505152748.GA22870@redhat.com> <20060505154638.GE22870@redhat.com> <20060505160009.GB25883@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 26 >> Go buy a new laptop because someone else has a utopian view on how >> hardware should be? > > You mean deciding not to silently ignore errors is having a utopian > view? Are we talking about Linux or kernel32.dll? > >> When a user can't do *anything* about it, it's useless, and serves >> as nothing but a cause for concern. "Oh no, is my laptop dying?". > > Laptops come with Windows XP pre-installed for those users, what was > your problem again? Sorry, but these comparisons to Windows are just childish. Linux is not obliged to spit out meaningless, unhelpful error messages, and be as user-hostile as possible. It's not a good trait. The current error message is wrong ... if we can come up with something useful to print, then great. But throwing 'Windows' around is not useful, and neither are crappy, incorrect errors. M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/