Received: by 2002:a25:e74b:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id e72csp1811857ybh; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:36:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyEjSDpKr+ktxDV6Y2V5Lp7x12jzjx5apXPWBW8Tf3S0cwklNE0El+RyL89jYshrrv8jnMV X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:c82:: with SMTP id cm2mr8540854edb.293.1594975005944; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:36:45 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1594975005; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=i1qd/nQC2bwXtKSPPVmMIo+ZjqMROzQeQ0FYWTZfpwRKRFkRRfJye068/hJaIBIPQV oG0/59RBVufAaF1eJgcOIUWYL2pXZIEGyVkqLZ4JGrKOItwRdvporWvQvZLObKuxLZRK N5hpz5OA9nE9FkmLlJYz4vAyozAIDtsPSjbiR9Z+tlL/eASV75MiaOsZdQhjAIuwsFWu 2+1X3E7ggjV64ea+qzU6hwuKQklrIZHSaBjzN+TtNQsyKFnJXrEQx/KxNBcq/f6nNJKR Kht+yAsBZ+uhl51M3qBjMrR+m0NQeTtYYAVpKpRT7veieq+RXqtgKoYlOnrPSs3/aA3G TOFQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=h8Fv6NTjiwXeivVtVCI+NmYxFoJUe6yAxqC2OZr6T4M=; b=u1jiLZ8emsuzHYMjEdzgR2487hVeeQzKqaXaCNaSmGoHy6JkqyaLM8WEOBrBNPRx3v cehbWvEAROI81mVVX+VqerUHS3nm7nCd9CKP6pwJ8vC34htW4KpXL1pQmM0fcygDfOWh 4s56OGDWtDl2vuwp27U+imYK78u895SpQx3wA9XWWcOoOo3NeaYNX/Xhhs5rInWEkxGQ mv6U++pCNUMNgnrkqvcifqa/BcLzzI1NS50rSXj1lDhF0vLIL6zFkcsUuFZdaSwCB8wZ Jd1B0SjdBb+ZDt2XNRWZAkiGeOdjrdX55IJm2nSFy9XjLXp0d76VuLgqC9+OAaCi7Itj KvtA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w24si4372908ejv.691.2020.07.17.01.36.22; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727068AbgGQIff (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:35:35 -0400 Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz ([46.255.230.98]:56494 "EHLO jabberwock.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726650AbgGQIfc (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:35:32 -0400 Received: by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 003E01C0BEB; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:35:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:35:27 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Dan Williams Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Jonathan Corbet , Kees Cook , Chris Mason , Greg Kroah-Hartman , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Message-ID: <20200717083527.GA1027@bug> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > +On the triviality of replacing words > +==================================== > + > +The African slave trade was a brutal system of human misery deployed at > +global scale. Some word choice decisions in a modern software project > +does next to nothing to compensate for that legacy. So why put any > +effort into something so trivial in comparison? Because the goal is not > +to repair, or erase the past. The goal is to maximize availability and > +efficiency of the global developer community to participate in the Linux > +kernel development process. I'd preffer to keep politics out of kernel. > +of 'blacklist' is devoid of a historical racial connection. However, one > +thought exercise is to consider replacing 'blacklist/whitelist' with > +'redlist/greenlist'. Realize that the replacement only makes sense if > +you have been socialized with the concepts that 'red/green' implies > +'stop/go'. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The So you are trying to blacklist colors. That's stupid. > +socialization of 'black/white' to have the connotation of > +'impermissible/permissible' does not support inclusion. > + > +Inclusion == global developer community efficiency. It seems inclusion == reason to push politics and questionable patches into kernel. That is opposite of efficiency. :-( Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html