Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751430AbWEIG5g (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 May 2006 02:57:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751431AbWEIG5g (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 May 2006 02:57:36 -0400 Received: from embla.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.22]:14760 "HELO embla.aitel.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751430AbWEIG5f (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 May 2006 02:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <44603CA0.2050304@aitel.hist.no> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 08:54:24 +0200 From: Helge Hafting User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Con Kolivas CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Jones , Pavel Machek , dtor_core@ameritech.net, "Martin J. Bligh" Subject: Re: Remove silly messages from input layer. References: <20060504024404.GA17818@redhat.com> <20060505152748.GA22870@redhat.com> <445EE899.6040908@aitel.hist.no> <200605081725.29977.kernel@kolivas.org> In-Reply-To: <200605081725.29977.kernel@kolivas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1920 Lines: 53 Con Kolivas wrote: >On Monday 08 May 2006 16:43, Helge Hafting wrote: > > >>Dave Jones wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 12:31:23PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: >>> >>> >>>>If you only pressed single key -- your keyboard is crap or there's >>>>some problem in the driver. >>>> >>>>If you never pressed any key -- your keyboard is crap or there's >>>>some problem in the driver. >>>> >>>> >>>That's hardly a constructive answer when the keyboard is a part of >>>a laptop. Crap hardware exists, get used to it. >>> >>> >>If some laptop comes with a bad keyboard, please blacklist >>it so future linux users can avoid the brand when shopping >>for hardware. >> >> > >This is great in theory but if we end up blacklisting half of the hardware out >there we're stuffed. The truth is most hardware out there is cheap and nasty >and sells in vast quantities. We have workarounds for timer code being buggy >on virtually half the motherboards out there on amd64 for example... > > Well, it depends on how broken they are then. These keyboards actually work, so it is not so much a case of being broken, more a case of "too cheap to follow the spec, but we can still get the keypresses"? I should have been more clear. With blacklisting, I didn't mean to make the driver refuse them. I was thinking about http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/index.html and similiar sites, where a buyer can go and look for any linux issues with the hardware he plans to buy. There is no problem if 50% of all hardware ends up here - one can then read about the issues and decide if they matter enough to get a different brand instead. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/