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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h23si14046044ejj.573.2020.07.22.01.19.02; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 01:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=ibm.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726892AbgGVISn (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:18:43 -0400 Received: from mx0b-001b2d01.pphosted.com ([148.163.158.5]:15044 "EHLO mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726147AbgGVISn (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:18:43 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (m0098420.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-001b2d01.pphosted.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 06M80vpm187314; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:18:33 -0400 Received: from pps.reinject (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-001b2d01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 32e1wkskv5-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:18:33 -0400 Received: from m0098420.ppops.net (m0098420.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by pps.reinject (8.16.0.36/8.16.0.36) with SMTP id 06M82jhO194322; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:18:33 -0400 Received: from ppma06fra.de.ibm.com (48.49.7a9f.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com [159.122.73.72]) by mx0b-001b2d01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 32e1wksku5-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:18:33 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (ppma06fra.de.ibm.com [127.0.0.1]) by ppma06fra.de.ibm.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 06M8HNM2012010; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:18:31 GMT Received: from b06cxnps4075.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06relay12.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.109.197]) by ppma06fra.de.ibm.com with ESMTP id 32brbgtdu3-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:18:30 +0000 Received: from d06av25.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av25.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.105.61]) by b06cxnps4075.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id 06M8IPLN61341790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:18:26 GMT Received: from d06av25.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E0511C05B; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:18:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from d06av25.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3AE11C071; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:18:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from linux.vnet.ibm.com (unknown [9.126.150.29]) by d06av25.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (Postfix) with SMTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:18:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:48:22 +0530 From: Srikar Dronamraju To: peterz@infradead.org Cc: Michael Ellerman , linuxppc-dev , LKML , Ingo Molnar , Valentin Schneider , Nick Piggin , Oliver OHalloran , Nathan Lynch , Michael Neuling , Anton Blanchard , Gautham R Shenoy , Vaidyanathan Srinivasan , Jordan Niethe Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/10] powerpc/smp: Generalize 2nd sched domain Message-ID: <20200722081822.GG9290@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Reply-To: Srikar Dronamraju References: <20200721113814.32284-1-srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20200721113814.32284-7-srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20200722074624.GP119549@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200722074624.GP119549@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.235,18.0.687 definitions=2020-07-22_03:2020-07-22,2020-07-22 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 impostorscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=1 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1015 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2007220056 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * peterz@infradead.org [2020-07-22 09:46:24]: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:08:10PM +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote: > > Currently "CACHE" domain happens to be the 2nd sched domain as per > > powerpc_topology. This domain will collapse if cpumask of l2-cache is > > same as SMT domain. However we could generalize this domain such that it > > could mean either be a "CACHE" domain or a "BIGCORE" domain. > > What's the whole smallcore vs bigcore thing? > > Would it make sense to have an actual overview of the various topology > layers somewhere? Because I'm getting lost and can't really make sense > of the code due to that. To quote with an example: using (Power 9) Power 9 is an SMT 8 core by design. However this 8 thread core can run as 2 independent core with threads 0,2,4 and 6 acting like a core, while threads 1,3,5,7 acting as another core. The firmware can decide to showcase them as 2 independent small cores or as one big core. However the LLC (i.e last level of cache) is shared between all the threads of the SMT 8 core. Future power chips, LLC might change, it may be expanded to share with another SMT 8 core or it could be made specific to SMT 4 core. The smt 8 core is also known as fused core/ Big core. The smaller smt 4 core is known as small core. So on a Power9 Baremetal, the firmware would show up as SMT4 core. and we have a CACHE level at SMT 8. CACHE level would be very very similar to MC domain in X86. Hope this is clear. -- Thanks and Regards Srikar Dronamraju