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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w10si912310ejb.303.2020.07.24.10.22.33; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726686AbgGXRWD (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:22:03 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:39062 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726397AbgGXRWD (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:22:03 -0400 Received: from oasis.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 517C120674; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:22:00 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Jonathan Corbet Cc: Peter Zijlstra , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML Subject: Minor RST rant Message-ID: <20200724132200.51fd2065@oasis.local.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Jon, I like how RST can help make for a better grouping of our documents and put it into other formats. But I have to rant a little because I'm currently experiencing some of the frustration that Peter commonly complains about. I'm looking into how to make the event directory tree be created on the fly, and not waste a lot of space on all these dentry and inodes that are allocated for the thousands of events in the kernel. This is to also make instances have a smaller memory footprint since each instance creates a copy of those 1000s of events. But I really don't understand the VFS layer. I decided to jump into Documentation/filesystems and try to learn how to do this for tracefs. Now for my rant. I just finished reading Documentation/filesystems/path-lookup.txt and learned a lot. It was even an enjoyable read. Then I went to Documentation/filesystems/path-lookup.rst, and found myself constantly re-reading the same paragraph over again, and losing track of what I'm reading. I realized it wasn't due to the writing, but due to the constant inserted markup of quotes, that makes it terribly annoying to read, and unfortunately, not enjoyable at all. For example: > It is tempting to describe the second kind as starting with a > component, but that isn't always accurate: a pathname can lack both > slashes and components, it can be empty, in other words. This is > generally forbidden in POSIX, but some of those "xxx``at``" system calls > in Linux permit it when the ``AT_EMPTY_PATH`` flag is given. For > example, if you have an open file descriptor on an executable file you > can execute it by calling `execveat() `_ passing > the file descriptor, an empty path, and the ``AT_EMPTY_PATH`` flag. All those `` are throwing me off to understanding what is being written. I don't even know what those are suppose to represent. Again, I really like the effort to pull all this useful information in the Documentation directory into other formats that others can enjoy, but this is just to give you some feedback where this format can be a real distraction for those that much prefer to read a simple text file than a web page or pdf file. Just my $0.02. -- Steve