Received: by 2002:a25:e74b:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id e72csp2351235ybh; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZFBDX80LDm8k+exxP2QemugvNCXC1f4sK3XutGKwpCXSB9lfxnZ0yJLiB9uY6hWudGZGC X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:ae49:: with SMTP id lf9mr9870519ejb.147.1595612057589; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1595612057; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=duyoTtpQOsBUPD6iimnPYTAeBarZHDKUFwf7D+A/ZtWcPm6u1rH3ggRKxFOuZuboDn l89LpdFQCZAzWZgsvaOVeWLbQz/YN4SXW9xjV0C/UGcYj62553xExs0dcei78AP1I7LS T21ainP52ygoF3mUSnJy8lfbN2OPAV6vwUB6LfNydFSM7PVp5KNuhOXfeI/iTlr04TAN Q7RY7o+Ba/c3LpqWrramFUrTtZFiXZ7vXi+/KRXdykLk9p8ippHC+HeEtfYCorFyoR6G k9Z0FcCn2nYhfSdVubve1FPMePEXnbenSbbWOpitXr5iHiP8LJ9uDktwQk7qsb47lK6K YlxQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date; bh=p4NoUTba1yJvvfkN2pNtWribKTR0YiaekRxehArHRjk=; b=Wu9DyFWjRD9SRMDA6P4kKzirlnvcpYYvR1KBgBqvFuGmDRzZJfHI9Y3lYADtffVcr+ 1WQkJzwgW0ZYs3hIIQErS4QDUcIq+8CMYo2kltD9N+A7DyypTHgXWs2VJi5+oFsRDEju NOxN5Ad81AgpmZlufG02S4zMylB9ZzkcpjSEqN8gPI+RBsVYAGXGfUljJQpM+2xFx3ME v34BC8zFIn60lrtbKjjidEo1flrz3EkKw2Av3vIpE8SvqN5jBgAGpBiDgAyVdzToaCiv W1o8yMWMx1QzNWjXietI4CX+XZPf2ChnvYUudwi1e3jmDPsepj/VSDg2zQ8VHUa1f+0O AxKw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id jp14si937908ejb.93.2020.07.24.10.33.55; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726782AbgGXRd0 (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:33:26 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47714 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726366AbgGXRd0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:33:26 -0400 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:3a1::42]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A958EC0619D3; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2ADB32BA; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:33:25 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Peter Zijlstra , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Neil Brown Subject: Re: Minor RST rant Message-ID: <20200724113325.44923f75@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20200724132200.51fd2065@oasis.local.home> References: <20200724132200.51fd2065@oasis.local.home> Organization: LWN.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:22:00 -0400 Steven Rostedt wrote: > > It is tempting to describe the second kind as starting with a > > component, but that isn't always accurate: a pathname can lack both > > slashes and components, it can be empty, in other words. This is > > generally forbidden in POSIX, but some of those "xxx``at``" system calls > > in Linux permit it when the ``AT_EMPTY_PATH`` flag is given. For > > example, if you have an open file descriptor on an executable file you > > can execute it by calling `execveat() `_ passing > > the file descriptor, an empty path, and the ``AT_EMPTY_PATH`` flag. > > All those `` are throwing me off to understanding what is being written. Give people a tool, some of them will make more use of it than you might like. I do my best to push back against excessive markup (which all of the above qualifies as, as far as I'm concerned), but I can't really even do that will all that goes through my tree, much less all the docs stuff merged by others. The markup in question was seemingly added by Neil; I've added him to CC in case he wants to comment on it. I'm not sure what to do other than to continue to push for minimal use of intrusive markup. jon