Received: by 2002:a25:e74b:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id e72csp2398708ybh; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzN/gApKnAs2YR+x0/e24SymirMhHLZA9ZzZIi5M8dvSgJubkrglDrfp0EEA19aoEVxoovi X-Received: by 2002:aa7:dbd9:: with SMTP id v25mr8529681edt.137.1595616211509; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1595616211; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=EStpCP1Pjb3ya/D2j44BIYHTAFD+4odC+WmRH0Y/zproXXaTVo70p5vF3aZ9DBUEBh IS7wZ+FFofFOX7v6tlCopd41F1keKHgSoFvcn/fT4UXKm4qMh+C5DRLwm8oYQvo3AP15 OMyWwtd27FQ/vg9fyY5mi9XGKceF83I1jhSkBTkeWQcM0DOYASxM8Lb71d+P840Avib7 +GRf34I75ag2pReJ7exM6vGDXGMyjOTNgj1ewa/sniznLebygzLlAtl4n6Ygm13h3OeP AOSFijq0r8SR8ZhELfhqiI7XxH6G/hakspQE9C8sVXRq5gv0owIwqfnrc/vvQ1Qbs/4u Bb4w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=02ShyjK90smM5o8GKHHFi2FqMsYosQM02Nk/6KvZONU=; b=JF0a/AimGVNsEm3gnnBsapcRO0EF89EqZDdWeND3VP4Zx2Qrl84mqH4wWjfzLm9qUz g8YOGmqXWxmeE3n1gyFhkWgPYFOoI0d8a64p7ooTXBJrQX+Zc27msbLZS8xutO+QXnio 6IVw6pJvIeRr3+m1usMK55rTpGJvd3GYUhH4ui3LB6Jaa1Hcccfx/3xfNkb4mWRk640p XcN7rUVyD2mc8fDJX2Rcpsp4K7yqhk0fuApjWz9x+onX707MjHA6roHI6QsPYQbJR3/+ VKo9gTO2cDDzcCNWIe7Yz57xPlD7YfQEK/lgjAG0U/TCixCkT7ps8cj4lsUClWIsx7qk 3UGA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 41si991151edq.343.2020.07.24.11.43.09; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726780AbgGXSmh (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:42:37 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:39354 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726411AbgGXSmg (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:42:36 -0400 Received: from oasis.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1F152065E; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:42:34 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Jonathan Corbet Cc: Peter Zijlstra , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Neil Brown Subject: Re: Minor RST rant Message-ID: <20200724144234.3227b501@oasis.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20200724113325.44923f75@lwn.net> References: <20200724132200.51fd2065@oasis.local.home> <20200724113325.44923f75@lwn.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:33:25 -0600 Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Give people a tool, some of them will make more use of it than you might > like. I do my best to push back against excessive markup (which all of the > above qualifies as, as far as I'm concerned), but I can't really even do > that will all that goes through my tree, much less all the docs stuff > merged by others. > > The markup in question was seemingly added by Neil; I've added him to CC > in case he wants to comment on it. I saw Neil as the author and should have Cc'd him. Neil, you can read my full email here: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20200724132200.51fd2065@oasis.local.home > > I'm not sure what to do other than to continue to push for minimal use of > intrusive markup. Yeah, I really didn't expect an action item to come from this. It was just some feedback, and perhaps you can use this as an example of "too much markup" when dealing with others. Looking at the web page that Matthew pointed out to, does make it much easier to read. But one still needs to remember that a large audience of this work is still those of us that will read the plain text. My viewer of choice is "less" ;-) -- Steve