Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932096AbWELOdf (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 May 2006 10:33:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932097AbWELOdf (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 May 2006 10:33:35 -0400 Received: from shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net ([24.71.223.10]:2370 "EHLO pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932096AbWELOde (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 May 2006 10:33:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:32:37 -0600 From: Robert Hancock Subject: Re: Linux poll() again In-reply-to: To: "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" Cc: linux-kernel Message-id: <44649C85.5000704@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <6bkl7-56Y-11@gated-at.bofh.it> <4463D1E4.5070605@shaw.ca> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2483 Lines: 51 linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote: >> POLLHUP means "The device has been disconnected." This would obviously >> be appropriate for a device such as a serial line or TTY, etc. but for a >> socket it is less obvious that this return value is appropriate. >> > > Hardly "less obvious". SunOs has returned POLLHUP as has other > Unixes like Interactive, from which the software was ported. It > went from Interactive, to SunOs, to Linux. Linux was the first > OS that required the hack. This was reported several years ago > and I was simply excoriated for having the audacity to report > such a thing. So, I just implemented a hack. Now the hack is > biting me. It's about time for poll() to return the correct > stuff. The standard doesn't require that a close on a socket should report POLLHUP. Thus this behavior may differ between UNIX implementations. If your software is requiring a POLLHUP to indicate the socket is closed I think it is being unnecessarily picky since read returning 0 universally indicates that the connection has been closed. Such are the compromises that are sometimes required to write portable software. > >>> I have used the subsequent read() with a returned >>> value of zero, to indicate that the client disconnected >>> (as a work around). However, on recent versions of >>> Linux, this is not reliable and the read() may >>> wait forever instead of immediately returning. >> If you want nonblocking behavior, you should set the socket to >> nonblocking. This is a bit strange though, unless the data was stolen by >> another thread or something. Are you sure you've seen this? > > I don't use threads. The hang under the specified conditions was first > observed on 2.6.16.4 (that I'm running on this system). The hack, previously > used, i.e., the read of zero was used since 2.4.x with success except it's > a hack and shouldn't be required. It was not ever required on SunOs from > which the software was ported. This may be a bug somewhere.. however, once again if you don't want read to block under any circumstances, set your sockets to non-blocking! -- Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/