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Subject: Re: PROBLEM: IO lockup on reiserfs FS.
To:     <Hgntkwis@vfemail.net>, <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
        <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
        <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
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Date:   Wed,  5 Aug 2020 19:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
From:   Metztli Information Technology <jose.r.r@metztli.com>
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On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 5:01 PM <Hgntkwis@vfemail.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 12:51:41 -0700
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 9:53 AM <Hgntkwis@vfemail.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's been over 1 week since I sent this into the reiserfs-devel
> > > mailing list. I'm escalating this as the kernel docs recommend.
> > > I'm still willing to help debug and test a fix for this problem.  
> > 
> > The thing is, you're using an ancient 4.14 kernel, 
> 
> Sorry, I didn't realize kernel development went that fast.
> I did try to go to the 5.X series, but the AMDGPU drivers don't work on
> my SI card anymore (I need to bisect which takes time and many re-boots
> to find the problematic commit).
> I'll try the Radeon-SI driver and see if I can reproduce this reliably.
> 
> > and a filesystem
> > that isn't really maintained any more. You'll find very few people
> > interested in trying to debug that combination.
> > 
> > You *might* have more luck with a more modern kernel, but even then
> > ... reiserfs?
> > 
> >               Linus
> > 
> 
> Why does no one (I've met others who share a similar sentiment), like
> reiserfs?
Could be because 'others' are all 'virtuous' individuals, employed by 'virtuous' corporations, headquartered at 'virtuous' western countries, whose 'virtuous' governments are able to finance the finest hasbara...er, propaganda, that a corporatocracy...er, 'democracy', can buy.

> I'm not looking for fight, I'm incredulous. It's a great FS
> that survives oops-es, power failures, and random crashes very very well.
> It's the only FLOSS FS with tail packing.
On a more sober note, Reiser4, Software Framework Release Number (SFRN) 4.0.2, is stable, and supercedes the features you appreciate in reiserfs, like Edward stated in his subsequent reply.
> 
> Thanks,
> David


Best Professional Regards.

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