Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751729AbWEPR1i (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 May 2006 13:27:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751730AbWEPR1i (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 May 2006 13:27:38 -0400 Received: from relay00.pair.com ([209.68.5.9]:53001 "HELO relay00.pair.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751729AbWEPR1h (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 May 2006 13:27:37 -0400 X-pair-Authenticated: 71.197.50.189 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:27:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Chase Venters X-X-Sender: root@turbotaz.ourhouse To: Ingo Oeser cc: "linux-os \\(Dick Johnson\\)" , Marc Perkel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Wiretapping Linux? In-Reply-To: <200605161909.47110.ioe-lkml@rameria.de> Message-ID: References: <4469D296.8060908@perkel.com> <200605161909.47110.ioe-lkml@rameria.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1571 Lines: 46 On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ingo Oeser wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, 16. May 2006 17:05, linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote: >> It's hard to find Windows products that don't contain >> such spyware. As Linux becomes more prevalent on the >> desktop, you can expect to find such spyware there >> too. > > Recent examples: > - Update availability checkers (e.g. Adept). > - Installation routines of a certain distribution > calling all a predefined NTP server instead of pool.ntp.org on first start. > > The NTP variant is a clever idea with low traffic and tells > you first usage and usage at all. Granted, but in this sense, your cable modem is also spying on you, because your cable company can see that you're actively speaking DOCSIS to them. There's a definite difference between merely knowing that a host is out there, versus knowing that host is listening to / downloading This-is-legally-protected-format-shifting-in-action-but-you-will-probably-sue-anyway.mp3 because you've got a purpose-built agent running on its CPU. > > Regards > > Ingo Oeser Thanks, Chase > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/