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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e6si3588624edr.328.2020.08.11.08.57.46; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729056AbgHKPyp (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:54:45 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.110.172]:38472 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728959AbgHKPyj (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:54:39 -0400 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5AD31B; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.2] (unknown [172.31.20.19]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B10E3F6CF; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: reduce preemption with IDLE tasks runable(Internet mail) To: =?UTF-8?B?YmVuYmppYW5nKOiSi+W9qik=?= Cc: Jiang Biao , "mingo@redhat.com" , "peterz@infradead.org" , "juri.lelli@redhat.com" , "vincent.guittot@linaro.org" , "rostedt@goodmis.org" , "bsegall@google.com" , "mgorman@suse.de" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" References: <20200801023248.90104-1-benbjiang@gmail.com> <5ed0fd46-3a3d-3c1a-5d75-03a74864e640@arm.com> <592F24A7-BF43-457D-AC40-DC5E35279730@tencent.com> <8bef1f94-f9bf-08a5-2ff3-3485d7796a96@arm.com> <8629CB9F-AFC8-43D6-BD14-B60A0B85ADB3@tencent.com> <5f870781-1648-b4ac-6026-557dfc347109@arm.com> From: Dietmar Eggemann Message-ID: <4964e359-afc5-a256-4950-853a9485eeff@arm.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:54:29 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/08/2020 02:41, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote: > Hi, > >> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:24 PM, Dietmar Eggemann wrote: >> >> On 06/08/2020 17:52, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Dietmar Eggemann wrote: >>>> >>>> On 03/08/2020 13:26, benbjiang(蒋彪) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Dietmar Eggemann wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01/08/2020 04:32, Jiang Biao wrote: >>>>>>> From: Jiang Biao [...] >> Because of this very small weight (weight=3), compared to a SCHED_NORMAL >> nice 0 task (weight=1024), a SCHED_IDLE task is penalized by a huge >> se->vruntime value (1024/3 higher than for a SCHED_NORMAL nice 0 task). >> This should make sure it doesn't tick preempt a SCHED_NORMAL nice 0 task. > Could you please explain how the huge penalization of vruntime(1024/3) could > make sure SCHED_IDLE not tick preempting SCHED_NORMAL nice 0 task? > > Thanks a lot. Trace a run of 2 SCHED_OTHER (nice 0) tasks and 1 SCHED_IDLE task on a single CPU and trace_printk the conditions 'if (delta < 0)' and ' if (delta > ideal_runtime)' in check_preempt_tick(). Then do the same with 3 SCHED_OTHER (nice 0) tasks. You can also change the niceness of the 2 SCHED_OTHER task to 19 to see some differences in the kernelshark's task layout. rt-app (https://github.com/scheduler-tools/rt-app) is a nice tool to craft those artificial use cases. [...]