Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932271AbWEPXF1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 May 2006 19:05:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932274AbWEPXF1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 May 2006 19:05:27 -0400 Received: from 216-99-213-120.dsl.aracnet.com ([216.99.213.120]:10975 "EHLO clueserver.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932271AbWEPXF0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 May 2006 19:05:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:05:25 -0700 (PDT) From: alan X-X-Sender: alan@blackbox.fnordora.org To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu cc: linux cbon , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: replacing X Window System ! In-Reply-To: <200605162242.k4GMgriX005985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: References: <20060516214148.14432.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605162242.k4GMgriX005985@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1429 Lines: 31 On Tue, 16 May 2006, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:19:16 PDT, alan said: > >> First of all, your assumptions are incorrect. Modern versions of X are >> not old, unoptimised, will do remote sessions, etc. > > Remote sessions have been there as long as the DISPLAY environment variable - I > think even X10.4, 2 decades and more ago, could do that. I know that it worked > just fine 18 years ago with X11R1 (aah... building that from source on a 25mz > Sun3 took a little while). (Anybody know when the first instance of > pointing 'xmelt' at another user's machine for amusement was? :) Yep. I know. Most people don't seem to know that X was designed to do remote connections very early on. > It's interesting that almost every attempt to devise something "better than X" > always seems to get as far as an Xterm-alike, an XClock-alike, a primitive > window manager, and 2 or 3 toy demo programs. Then, unless you're Microsoft > or Apple, you discover that doing a complete window system is *hard*..... "Those who do not learn the lessons of X are doomed to reimpliment them badly." -- "Waiter! This lambchop tastes like an old sock!" - Sheri Lewis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/