Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750872AbWEQLrY (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 07:47:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751090AbWEQLrY (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 07:47:24 -0400 Received: from web26603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.176.53]:53616 "HELO web26603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750872AbWEQLrX (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 07:47:23 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Wp8XmT6XaR9J79nt6iZjedLoiCUcZVd6CZ7FUh2SjtTJJlhtLxaYlrYHgCLcIjYd9E6gguVCaRUXoTTNhPmlrbZBP7e1Tg+kA2btptFPNaGs6/WaXL13Fnybli9/U0ZrdW1ksdRn5WFylCvGDsthdinF5pkMrMezngi5mQ4z+Jk= ; Message-ID: <20060517114722.90648.qmail@web26603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:47:22 +0200 (CEST) From: linux cbon Subject: Re: replacing X Window System ! To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1869 Lines: 66 hi, X Window System has many problems affecting directly the kernel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Limitations_and_criticisms_of_X -Many current implementations of X manipulate the video hardware directly. -X deliberately contains no specification as to user interface or most inter-application communication. -The X protocol provides no facilities for handling sound, -Until recently, X did not include a good solution to print screen-displays. -One cannot currently detach an X client or session from one server and reattach it to another. I would add : -X needs to be root so it opens many security holes. -X has more code than the kernel and it is almost an OS in itself. -if a "closed-source" graphical card driver has security holes, what do you do ? etc. Some people are working on replacement like Y windows : http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/teaching/projects/Distinguished03/MarkThomas.pdf http://www.y-windows.org/ There are some questions like : - should the next generation window versions Y,Z etc. remain backward compatible with X ? I think they should start something better and simpler from scratch and not backward compatible. - should the kernel remain pure "shell" or include some basic universal graphical universal window system ? I think second answer. Regards. ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services pr?f?r?s : v?rifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualit? en temps r?el. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/