Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932243AbWEQNCF (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 09:02:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932244AbWEQNCF (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 09:02:05 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:50150 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932243AbWEQNCE (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 09:02:04 -0400 Subject: Re: 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: please drop add-raw-driver-kconfig-entry-for-s390.patch From: Alan Cox To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Martin Schwidefsky , Ihno Krumreich , Olaf Hering , Heiko Carstens In-Reply-To: <20060516161228.GF5677@stusta.de> References: <20060515005637.00b54560.akpm@osdl.org> <20060516161228.GF5677@stusta.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:12:33 +0100 Message-Id: <1147871553.10470.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-4.fc4) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1388 Lines: 35 On Maw, 2006-05-16 at 18:12 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Since it seems the NAK's of Christoph and Martin weren't enough: > NAK++ Then lets add an ACK++ as well > This driver is declared obsolete since more than two years, and while > it's worth a discussion how long to keep it for legacy users, merging a > patch offering an obsolete driver for even more users is silly. The real world expects a raw driver. Application authors also expect the same functionality on all platforms. Also in truth you can NACK and "obsolete" the raw devices all you like, nobody in the distribution world will drop it because it is part of "standard" unix/linux OS functionality and has been for longer than Linux even existed. If you want to fork Linux between "Linux the real world", and "Linux the abstract unused by anyone perfection" that's a fine way to ensure such a split happens. You know the O_DIRECT stuff is better, I know the O_DIRECT stuff is better, but so was betamax and so is a Dvorak keyboard... I happen to like "Linux the real world OS", if I wanted to run something more abstractly elegant then I'd download Plan 9. ACK Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/