Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932266AbWEQNY6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 09:24:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932267AbWEQNY6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 09:24:58 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:24754 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932266AbWEQNY5 (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2006 09:24:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:24:08 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Bill Davidsen Cc: marekw1977@yahoo.com.au, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: acpi4asus Message-ID: <20060517132408.GD8065@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060511130743.GG15876@mail.muni.cz> <20060511073211.1da40329.akpm@osdl.org> <200605121116.11930.marekw1977@yahoo.com.au> <44649A2E.4070803@tmr.com> <20060508234723.GB4349@ucw.cz> <446A9AD0.6030509@tmr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <446A9AD0.6030509@tmr.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1773 Lines: 50 On ?t 16-05-06 23:38:56, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > > >Hi! > > > > > > > >>>I am far from qualified to comment on this, but from a > >>>users point of view, is it possible to not have laptop > >>>specific code in the kernel? > >>>I have had two Linux laptops and with both I had ACPI > >>>issues. > >>>The vendors of both laptops (Toshiba Tecra S1 and now > >>>an Asus W3V) don't seem to be following standards. With > >>>both I seem to need to patch ACPI to get various > >>>functions of the laptop to work. > >>>I would love to see laptop specific functionality > >>>definitions exist outside the kernel. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I don't think that forcing laptop users to have their > >>own code outside the kernel is really the best approach > >>for either the developers or the users. Most users will > >> > >> > > > >No, we don't want that. But we do not want ibm-acpi, toshiba-acpi, > >asus-acpi, etc, when they really only differ in string constants used. > > > >We want userland to tell kernel 'mail led is controlled by AML routine > >foo', instead of having gazillion *-acpi modules. > > > > > > > > > I see no reason why an interface to that couldn't be included in the > kernel, with just a small table for each hardware instead of a whole > module. Kind of a white list with detail. I guess that would be acceptable solution. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/