Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751381AbWERSwf (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 May 2006 14:52:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751379AbWERSwf (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 May 2006 14:52:35 -0400 Received: from ezoffice.mandriva.com ([84.14.106.134]:46354 "EHLO office.mandriva.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751381AbWERSwe (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 May 2006 14:52:34 -0400 To: linux cbon Cc: Helge Hafting , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: replacing X Window System ! X-URL: From: Thierry Vignaud Organization: Mandriva Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:52:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20060518172827.73908.qmail@web26601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> (linux cbon's message of "Thu, 18 May 2006 19:28:27 +0200 (CEST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1660 Lines: 46 linux cbon writes: > Why dont we have "good" 3D support in X ? no documentation how to program nvidia 3d chips? or for the very latest ati chips? or from the XYZ vendor? .... > > Also, please tell why this would be faster, simpler, or easier to > > manage. Stuff in the kernel is generally harder to manage than > > userspace stuff, and definitely not simpler. Kernel code lives > > with all sorts of requirements and limitations that an application > > programmer would hate to have to worry about. > > Put X in the kernel, so we dont have 7924 bad written > incompatible implementations of it. no, we now have 7924 kernels that have to implement each of these drivers (linux, *bsd, other unices, macos x, ...) ow! how do we do with macos x? or on windows? no more X? (though i don't really care but...) > In my opinion, graphics do belong to the OS, like > sound, network and file system. "belong to the OS" != "belong in the kernel" and where do you put the boundary of the OS? most people don't say that the OS is only the kernel... > > How to improve/replace X : > http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/xarch_ols2004/xarch-ols2004-html/ > http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/teaching/projects/Distinguished03/MarkThomas.pdf like if xorg wasn't trying to improve x11 status (slowly trying to isolate priviliged stuff, introducing xcb, ...) > What is your opinion ? stop troll^h^h^h^h^h thread? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/