Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751308AbWESNKy (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2006 09:10:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751331AbWESNKy (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2006 09:10:54 -0400 Received: from embla.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.22]:11236 "HELO embla.aitel.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751325AbWESNKx (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2006 09:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: <446DC31E.4080900@aitel.hist.no> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:07:42 +0200 From: Helge Hafting User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Panagiotis Issaris CC: linux cbon , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: replacing X Window System ! References: <20060518172827.73908.qmail@web26601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <446D8F36.3010201@aitel.hist.no> <446DA746.50506@lumumba.uhasselt.be> In-Reply-To: <446DA746.50506@lumumba.uhasselt.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1560 Lines: 43 Panagiotis Issaris wrote: > Hi, > > Helge Hafting wrote: > >> [...] >> The problem with writing those 3D drivers is not complexity >> or "historic baggage" in the X codebase. It is the fact that >> only the vendors know how the cards work, and most of them >> won't tell us. >> >> To which the solution is: buy the cards that work, and screw the rest. > > > Just out of curiosity: Do you know any currently sold cards that support > XVideo, OpenGL and for which open source drivers are available? I don't know much about XVideo. For DRI support, look at: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Status?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware Many of the cards listed there are a few years old, but several of them are still available as cheap alternatives in shops. I had no problem buying a radeon 9200 and a matrox G550 for example. Also, the VIA graphichs chips found on current mini-itx motherboards have both opengl and mpeg2-acceleration. A mini-itx thing is hardly what you use as a power desktop machine, but the small size and fanless operation means they're popular for homemade media player/entertainment boxes. I got one in my car; mostly for playing CDs and gps navigation. But it will also play DVDs, play tuxracer using opengl, as well as the usual web surfing and word processing. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/