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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e17si157457edc.382.2020.08.19.14.57.41; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726681AbgHSVyY (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:54:24 -0400 Received: from mga04.intel.com ([192.55.52.120]:59297 "EHLO mga04.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726482AbgHSVyX (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:54:23 -0400 IronPort-SDR: 89zGOGCfFoIBeMW0fB2xBq6ILkm7NyDcBYYDKYbdkoP/kb2XpIYSkQQiVPKpY4NJ19ObTlueo0 4l+b47YJzB5g== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6000,8403,9718"; a="152617032" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.76,332,1592895600"; d="scan'208";a="152617032" X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from orsmga008.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.65]) by fmsmga104.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Aug 2020 14:54:23 -0700 IronPort-SDR: EPHC1e33LTT3gT4GgA80qhUot5SVvDl5NGvbT5WbDqviAf46e1Hb4EpvWlqK0JbMJ1z0LQuukP iueiYbdhLoCA== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.76,332,1592895600"; d="scan'208";a="327217882" Received: from dfugate-mobl1.amr.corp.intel.com (HELO dwf-u18040) ([10.212.117.189]) by orsmga008-auth.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Aug 2020 14:54:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nvme: add emulation for zone-append From: David Fugate Reply-To: david.fugate@linux.intel.com To: Jens Axboe , Christoph Hellwig , Kanchan Joshi Cc: "kbusch@kernel.org" , "Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com" , "sagi@grimberg.me" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com" , Nitesh Shetty , SelvaKumar S , Javier Gonzalez , david.fugate@intel.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 15:54:20 -0600 In-Reply-To: <9fa64efe-8477-5d33-20ed-9619a9fe8d70@kernel.dk> References: <20200818052936.10995-1-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20200818052936.10995-3-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20200818071249.GB2544@lst.de> <9fa64efe-8477-5d33-20ed-9619a9fe8d70@kernel.dk> Organization: Intel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 13:25 -0600, Jens Axboe wrote: > It's not required, the driver will function quite fine without it. If > you > want to use ZNS it's required. The NVMe spec does not require Zone Append for ZNS; a *vendor-neutral* Linux driver should not either. > The Linux driver thankfully doesn't need > any vendor to sign off on what it can or cannot do, or what features > are acceptable. The problem is the driver needs one *particular* vendor to sign off. Existing driver behavior aligns with WDC drives instead of the spec, giving WDC an unfair advantage. Couple this with NVMe maintainer(s?) working for WDC, and there's a conflict of interest. > It's *always* ok to reject contributions, if those contributions > cause > maintainability issues, unacceptable slowdowns, or whatever other > issue > that the maintainers of said driver don't want to deal with. Any > contribution should be judged on merit, not based on political > decisions > or opinions. Agreed, but this standard needs to be applied equally to everyone. E.g., harmless contributions such as https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nvme/20200611054156.GB3518@lst.de/ get rejected yet clear spec violations from maintainers are accepted? This type of behavior encourages forking, vendor-specific drivers, etc. which is somewhere I hope none of us want to go.