Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751416AbWESWvj (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2006 18:51:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751417AbWESWvj (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2006 18:51:39 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]:50243 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751416AbWESWvj convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 May 2006 18:51:39 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VMXLRFQw77aYUP6pAvBpW4E6dtGJMaDaP0W0YTvYe6a2I1eHs/H6cZ5R4ddHGi9bxPV9YSBLv3rD7mUePTS38Bstmsv10EdZ/Og8FcIPA2twEJsYY4sfiCW1nzCJKdMlDrKLtxcghiThGeEfqB9uLMDuKo/dWurLQM0ZX0LHt+4= Message-ID: <7e90c9180605191551n7193e597s552db3d67e76128b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:51:37 -0700 From: "Peter Gordon" To: "linux cbon" Subject: Re: replacing X Window System ! Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20060519220949.41083.qmail@web26605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <1148051890.26628.138.camel@capoeira> <20060519220949.41083.qmail@web26605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1673 Lines: 41 On 5/19/06, linux cbon wrote: > Are "DRIs" the best available open-source drivers for > old ATI cards ? Yes. > Done by reverse engineering ? Nope. As I understand it, the R200 drivers and earlier are written from actual specs submitted to the X.org/Mesa/DRI hackers by ATi (under some NDAs). The R300/R400 stuff is being reverse-engineered. > And not all functions are usable :-(. Most of it is there: hardware video scaling (XVideo), OpenGL hardware acceleration where available, DDC/I2C support, MergedFB/Xinerama (multi-head setups), Render acceleration (yay for EXA!) etc. The only major thing that isn't to my knowledge is the S3TC texture compression (due to patents?). > What about newer ATI or Nvidia cards ? A hope for > something better ? Intel's published specs and open source drivers for their integrated video chips (which can do cool things like XvMC, etc.). From speaking with a couple of X.org hackers, the GMA 900/950 stuff is supposed to have nearly equivalent performance to a Radeon 9500 or so. (Thanks, Intel!) > By the way : did you know of this project about an > "open source graphic card" ? > Hardware specs are open, so no need of [NDA] and > open-source drivers coding easier : > http://opengraphics.gitk.com/open_graphics_spec.pdf > http://lists.duskglow.com/mailman/listinfo/open-graphics > (still a project). I'm hoping to be able to buy one Real Soon Now(TM). :) --Peter - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/