Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:a0d1:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id j17csp1025447pxa; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:56:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwWk45Jfy3xztqPjJklGXlnLtBO9LMgXAp+78P75bDYbe94xwwGRrGw4T2VCbX/pYBpWBkh X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:27db:: with SMTP id k27mr1852395ejc.433.1597906619599; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:56:59 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1597906619; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=JC0qxeOp67h0mdJyg0Ts/BSzdGvmC6zSeESyKUYsPWANE0/BYuH1svvlnAeTLfS5/L ZgBesnXrTrfR3MDWXxtUD2fPxtdh0a/Ob55MiARH/HJSg+Fy3U6kXODKecbHkBBO3iqc tp+8T/57df8abli5iHaxhT01u941PIQgSVgDt7vIih+JJK8JyYCQ16Kj/1t+ZUdIg+ae CVDRLAXT1fEPsoBTeNJBGW1DRrcAE4Y8p4Qs7YA1UnqNH2NA4yjeEFq067oUr+5rTgeQ GFPTwfS/2w4Oq2bcGbI+CnKvugxpB5X1kVEDSP3R+MTF2fV91eIf7D20J6D+LonwSnYi 1E7w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date; bh=kgth6+QlQX+UEPrv/64h2vXlY5r313IQTVQPnu/2WDQ=; b=snSo5Lf9tM+Zig7TG5ojgK78O25eWIbdKti8D2Q6DL9Lbuyc2QNpdP0/puGVTSMjLi m5AdcFV/kduaQLGXSTZ83WJONFi8Umz0CJWf9Z2RSYyragNOaFFTUG+W5JMofkgxGUYC tLcyiwAXU9GnMFYptUZfXy5KTm2QJbjN+tFW96goxdRZd99W5JbWSkHQjCL+wUtxWh8a xnkNhYOXhAlWdi2vyz+FXq5Cr4LyhyGjzfEnE0hYkG1MwgXjvPA6kcjAgjKKfZ8kwau+ 2pRtWT7QY8cWrphOl7e8I24qlR3BXNKxGWvltwfcZnjaa2mPsIqfqEQKIZhGknWfFitZ NVYA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id cd8si766689ejb.421.2020.08.19.23.56.35; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725916AbgHTGwz (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 02:52:55 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.211]:40942 "EHLO verein.lst.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725780AbgHTGwx (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 02:52:53 -0400 Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 4C3FD68BEB; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 08:52:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 08:52:50 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Javier Gonzalez Cc: Jens Axboe , david.fugate@linux.intel.com, Christoph Hellwig , Kanchan Joshi , "kbusch@kernel.org" , "Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com" , "sagi@grimberg.me" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com" , Nitesh Shetty , SelvaKumar S Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nvme: add emulation for zone-append Message-ID: <20200820065250.GA6885@lst.de> References: <20200818052936.10995-1-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20200818052936.10995-3-joshi.k@samsung.com> <20200818071249.GB2544@lst.de> <9fa64efe-8477-5d33-20ed-9619a9fe8d70@kernel.dk> <20200820063719.q6wftb23op45wigk@MacBook-Pro.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200820063719.q6wftb23op45wigk@MacBook-Pro.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 08:37:19AM +0200, Javier Gonzalez wrote: > We will stop pushing for this emulation. We have a couple of SSDs where > we disabled Append, we implemented support for them, and we wanted to > push the changes upstream. That's it. This is no politics not a > conspiracy against the current ZNS spec. We spent a lot of time working > on this spec and are actually doing a fair amount of work to support > Append other places in the stack. In any case, the fuzz stops here. FYI, from knowing your personally I'm pretty confident you are not part of a conspiracy and you are just doing your best given the context, and I appreciate all your work! I'm a lot less happy about thinks that happen in other groups not involving you directly, and I'm still pretty mad at how the games were played there, and especially other actors the seem to be reading the list here, and instead of taking part in the discussion are causing fuzz in completely unrelated venues.