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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22D=F6hr=2C_Markus_ICC-H=22?= 
	<Markus.Doehr@siegenia-aubi.com>
To: "'Helge Hafting'" <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: "'Peter Gordon'" <codergeek42@gmail.com>, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: replacing X Window System !
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:50:20 +0200
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> >Did you actually do that? Starting Firefox over a 6 Mbit VPN takes 
> >about 3 minutes on a FAST machine. That?s not acceptable - our users 
> >want (almost) immediate response to an application, to clicking and 
> >waiting 10 seconds until the app is doing something.
> >  
> >
> It is not that bad.  I tried starting firefox on a machine 
> 20km away, using a 5Mbps ADSL link from the "wrong" end.  (I 
> ssh'ed into my home pc from work.) Firefox started in 55s, 
> not 3min. Still bad, but that is a firefox problem, not a 
> generic X-tunneling problem.  I can start the lyx word 
> processor in 3s over the same link, and have decent 
> performance while using it too.

55 seconds to start an application... That?s not acceptable. Why do you
think it?s a Firefox problem? Did you try this with a Java application? 

I don?t wanna blame X in general, just saying it is useless if you?re
sitting in Hungary or Poland and want to work remotely - in comparision to
M$?s  RDP. 

The question for me is not "X or not X" - but how to enable people to start
e. g. "sam" on an HP-UX box without needing to wait minutes before the
application starts. It works - for sure, but the speed is for our needs not
acceptable. Additionally ~ 60 ssh sessions on a single box will but a lot of
CPU load on the system beside the fact, that you need a BIG BIG pipe.


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Markus
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