Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030234AbWEYP5P (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 May 2006 11:57:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030235AbWEYP5P (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 May 2006 11:57:15 -0400 Received: from [195.23.16.24] ([195.23.16.24]:19085 "EHLO linuxbipbip.grupopie.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030234AbWEYP5O (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 May 2006 11:57:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4475D3CE.3010309@grupopie.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:57:02 +0100 From: Paulo Marques Organization: Grupo PIE User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Garzik CC: Jon Smirl , "D. Hazelton" , Dave Airlie , Alan Cox , Kyle Moffett , Manu Abraham , linux cbon , Helge Hafting , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <9e4733910605241656r6a88b5d3hda8c8a4e72edc193@mail.gmail.com> <4475007F.7020403@garzik.org> <200605250237.20644.dhazelton@enter.net> <44756E70.9020207@garzik.org> <9e4733910605250704m68235d88lcd8eaedfda5e63cf@mail.gmail.com> <4475C845.5000801@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: <4475C845.5000801@garzik.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1261 Lines: 31 Jeff Garzik wrote: >[...] >> would also pick up the ability to reset secondary cards at boot. > > But if you think the kernel will grow an x86 emulator, you're dreaming. > That's what initramfs and friends are for. I really don't want to push the x86 emulator idea, especially when kernel gurus that I respect very much, such as yourself, seem to be against it. It just seems awkward that everyone thinks its fine to have a 30Kb ACPI interpreter in the kernel that loads a DSDT and executes it, but a 30Kb x86 emulator that loads a video ROM and executes it is completely absurd. Some PC's need an ACPI interpreter to function properly, some video cards need a x86 emulator to function properly. Why is everyone so keen on keeping the video drivers crippled, but no one says "ACPI should be done from user space with user mode helpers"? -- Paulo Marques - www.grupopie.com Pointy-Haired Boss: I don't see anything that could stand in our way. Dilbert: Sanity? Reality? The laws of physics? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/