Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751088AbWE2B3k (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 May 2006 21:29:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751089AbWE2B3k (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 May 2006 21:29:40 -0400 Received: from amnesiac.heapspace.net ([195.54.228.42]:34309 "EHLO amnesiac.heapspace.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751088AbWE2B3j (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 May 2006 21:29:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 04:29:33 +0300 From: Daniel Stone To: Jon Smirl Cc: Dave Airlie , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Message-ID: <20060529012933.GR16521@fooishbar.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jon Smirl , Dave Airlie , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605272245.22320.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605272027o7b59ea5n5d402dabdd7167cb@mail.gmail.com> <200605280112.01639.dhazelton@enter.net> <21d7e9970605281613y3c44095bu116a84a66f5ba1d7@mail.gmail.com> <9e4733910605281759j2e7bebe1h6e3f2bf1bdc3fc50@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0aF+6pWUK5w8WdCh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e4733910605281759j2e7bebe1h6e3f2bf1bdc3fc50@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1670 Lines: 44 --0aF+6pWUK5w8WdCh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:59:19PM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: > On 5/28/06, Dave Airlie wrote: > >c) Lots of distros don't use fbdev drivers, forcing this on them to > >use drm isn't an option. >=20 > Why isn't this an option? Will the distros that insist on continuing > to ship three conflicting video drivers fighting over a single piece > of hardware please stand up and be counted? Distros get new drivers > all the time, why will this be any different? Often they flat-out don't work. Walk into a store and buy a random laptop. Odds are it uses an Intel graphics chip. Now load intelfb on this. Watch it completely fail to set a mode, as intelfb has no knowledge beyond what the CRTC was like on i810. The support offered by fbdev drivers is laughable in comparison to the support offered by X drivers. If you're lucky, it fails cleanly. If not, you're silently failing to get a working display. --0aF+6pWUK5w8WdCh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEek59RkzMgPKxYGwRAmstAJ0cz8m7JVtOs3GfioNKvKmRWZoAygCferj1 rO+SzW1gg2qxZwWe/o4W+7Q= =mjgG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0aF+6pWUK5w8WdCh-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/