Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751179AbWE2FOx (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 01:14:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751186AbWE2FOx (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 01:14:53 -0400 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.232]:26767 "EHLO wr-out-0506.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751179AbWE2FOw convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 01:14:52 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c7i02TuAme00ljLlo5xuOpbwOlF9tkgeY3tObvF3I4SQwjncnla9LACPV4f8gUKk8p0Pvnlx+szTdyTVmaVUlWOJzXI7+uux6U2RMnVYlI51crY9ODputPbXqOu3AgPOteCN0IIndRHZN9YpLTxtfyPdaVhvDV9JtWWKzpSTze0= Message-ID: <21d7e9970605282214l3b3060cew9d55ddc55c4274dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:14:41 +1000 From: "Dave Airlie" To: "Neil Brown" Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Cc: "D. Hazelton" , "Jon Smirl" , "Pavel Machek" , "Alan Cox" , "Kyle Moffett" , "Manu Abraham" , "linux cbon" , "Helge Hafting" , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <17530.32657.869302.621952@cse.unsw.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605282316.50916.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605282105t656b7c11i3809105cf261741@mail.gmail.com> <200605290025.50100.dhazelton@enter.net> <17530.32657.869302.621952@cse.unsw.edu.au> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1113 Lines: 27 > > And we really have no tie-breaker mechanism in the kernel - I know > Linus is very loathe to play that role. Negotiation, compromise, and > persistence are what is needed. > > I suspect that to make progress you will have to start out by doing > something that you don't completely agree with. But that doesn't need > to be a loss. It will be both a learning experience and a credibility > earning exercise. > > Maybe if you are really genuine about putting effort into this we > should see if something can be arranged to get you to the > kernel-summit so that you, Jon, and Dave can yell at each other for a > while and come to some understanding:-) We did this at last years Kernel Summit :-) When I state these views they are not all my own, they are the aggregate of a number of developers who were at KS last year and a few we've talked to since. Dave. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/