Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751340AbWE2VY3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 17:24:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751341AbWE2VYU (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 17:24:20 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:51928 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751338AbWE2VYJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 17:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: <447B666F.5080109@garzik.org> Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:23:59 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Machek CC: Dave Airlie , "D. Hazelton" , Jon Smirl , Alan Cox , Kyle Moffett , Manu Abraham , linux cbon , Helge Hafting , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605272245.22320.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605272027o7b59ea5n5d402dabdd7167cb@mail.gmail.com> <200605280112.01639.dhazelton@enter.net> <21d7e9970605281613y3c44095bu116a84a66f5ba1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20060529102339.GA746@elf.ucw.cz> <21d7e9970605290336m1f80b08nebbd2a995be959cb@mail.gmail.com> <20060529124840.GD746@elf.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20060529124840.GD746@elf.ucw.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.1 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.2 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 880 Lines: 23 Pavel Machek wrote: > These are very reasonable rules... but still, I think we need to move > away from vgacon/vesafb. We need proper hardware drivers for our > hardware. I agree we need proper drivers, but moving away from vesafb will be tough... moving away from vgacon is likely impossible for many many years yet. Once proper hardware drivers exist, you will still need to support booting into a situation where you probably need video before a driver can be loaded -- e.g. distro installers. Server owners will likely prefer vgacon over a huge video driver they will never use for anything but text mode console. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/