Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751324AbWE2VrD (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 17:47:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751347AbWE2Vqd (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 17:46:33 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:36266 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751325AbWE2Vq3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 May 2006 17:46:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 23:45:40 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Dave Airlie , "D. Hazelton" , Jon Smirl , Alan Cox , Kyle Moffett , Manu Abraham , linux cbon , Helge Hafting , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Message-ID: <20060529214540.GB7537@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605272245.22320.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605272027o7b59ea5n5d402dabdd7167cb@mail.gmail.com> <200605280112.01639.dhazelton@enter.net> <21d7e9970605281613y3c44095bu116a84a66f5ba1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20060529102339.GA746@elf.ucw.cz> <21d7e9970605290336m1f80b08nebbd2a995be959cb@mail.gmail.com> <20060529124840.GD746@elf.ucw.cz> <447B666F.5080109@garzik.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <447B666F.5080109@garzik.org> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1271 Lines: 31 On Po 29-05-06 17:23:59, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > >These are very reasonable rules... but still, I think we need to move > >away from vgacon/vesafb. We need proper hardware drivers for our > >hardware. > > I agree we need proper drivers, but moving away from vesafb will be > tough... moving away from vgacon is likely impossible for many many > years yet. > > Once proper hardware drivers exist, you will still need to support > booting into a situation where you probably need video before a driver > can be loaded -- e.g. distro installers. Server owners will likely > prefer vgacon over a huge video driver they will never use for anything > but text mode console. Well, I agree that vesafb and vgacon need to exist and are useful for installation/servers/etc. I was arguing that some combinations are bad. Like vgacon + X + 3D acceleration. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/