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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id bo3si10761ejb.551.2020.09.08.12.55.12; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730795AbgIHTyV (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 8 Sep 2020 15:54:21 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:38070 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1730551AbgIHPhh (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Sep 2020 11:37:37 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93B9AC26; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 15:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/10] KFENCE: A low-overhead sampling-based memory safety error detector To: Marco Elver , Dave Hansen Cc: glider@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, cl@linux.com, rientjes@google.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, mark.rutland@arm.com, penberg@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, paulmck@kernel.org, andreyknvl@google.com, aryabinin@virtuozzo.com, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, dvyukov@google.com, edumazet@google.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, mingo@redhat.com, jannh@google.com, corbet@lwn.net, keescook@chromium.org, peterz@infradead.org, cai@lca.pw, tglx@linutronix.de, will@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org References: <20200907134055.2878499-1-elver@google.com> <20200908153102.GB61807@elver.google.com> From: Vlastimil Babka Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 17:36:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200908153102.GB61807@elver.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 9/8/20 5:31 PM, Marco Elver wrote: >> >> How much memory overhead does this end up having? I know it depends on >> the object size and so forth. But, could you give some real-world >> examples of memory consumption? Also, what's the worst case? Say I >> have a ton of worst-case-sized (32b) slab objects. Will I notice? > > KFENCE objects are limited (default 255). If we exhaust KFENCE's memory > pool, no more KFENCE allocations will occur. > Documentation/dev-tools/kfence.rst gives a formula to calculate the > KFENCE pool size: > > The total memory dedicated to the KFENCE memory pool can be computed as:: > > ( #objects + 1 ) * 2 * PAGE_SIZE > > Using the default config, and assuming a page size of 4 KiB, results in > dedicating 2 MiB to the KFENCE memory pool. > > Does that clarify this point? Or anything else that could help clarify > this? Hmm did you observe that with this limit, a long-running system would eventually converge to KFENCE memory pool being filled with long-aged objects, so there would be no space to sample new ones? > Thanks, > -- Marco >