Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932458AbWE3USx (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 May 2006 16:18:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932462AbWE3USx (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 May 2006 16:18:53 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:21473 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932461AbWE3USw (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 May 2006 16:18:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:18:02 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: David Lang Cc: Jeff Garzik , Dave Airlie , "D. Hazelton" , Jon Smirl , Alan Cox , Kyle Moffett , Manu Abraham , linux cbon , Helge Hafting , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Message-ID: <20060530201802.GB16106@elf.ucw.cz> References: <200605272245.22320.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605272027o7b59ea5n5d402dabdd7167cb@mail.gmail.com> <200605280112.01639.dhazelton@enter.net> <21d7e9970605281613y3c44095bu116a84a66f5ba1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20060529102339.GA746@elf.ucw.cz> <21d7e9970605290336m1f80b08nebbd2a995be959cb@mail.gmail.com> <20060529124840.GD746@elf.ucw.cz> <447B666F.5080109@garzik.org> <20060529214540.GB7537@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1238 Lines: 32 Hi! > >Well, I agree that vesafb and vgacon need to exist and are useful for > >installation/servers/etc. I was arguing that some combinations are > >bad. > > > >Like vgacon + X + 3D acceleration. > > why is this bad? > > this lets the user of the box use as much as is needed, from plain text > mode on up to accelerated modes. perfect for the user who sometimes needs > a nimple, stripped down system and sometimes needs graphics (and if they > need graphics it seems silly to deny them access to the accelerated > features) Because you have vgacon that knows nothing about your videocard, then try to run 3D acceleration over it. Suspend/resume can't work properly in such case... fbcon is pretty good for your stripped-down system, too. ...and we do not want to support 1000 different configs, because then they all become buggy. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/