Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932533AbWE3WzY (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 May 2006 18:55:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932535AbWE3WzY (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 May 2006 18:55:24 -0400 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.204]:55208 "EHLO nz-out-0102.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932533AbWE3WzX (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 May 2006 18:55:23 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jJztcq1n75JxI4QW4sSGesFX8KPdIeYaSpJqtZwgQBiNb37zAhP9Z4Vl5uQyVMAGE+zP4oQ2iz1a8QB/mrmafXz5eG24ELR7LV+SBFrl21zIB/7poGQ6S3Qq/eFhuV6+7lS89K0Ip4OdbxUALrnTiEnhAKG/41pkbdtqAZVKtV4= Message-ID: <9e4733910605301555o287cbd18i99c8813ca6592494@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:55:22 -0400 From: "Jon Smirl" To: "Ondrej Zajicek" Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20060530223513.GA32267@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605272245.22320.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605272027o7b59ea5n5d402dabdd7167cb@mail.gmail.com> <200605280112.01639.dhazelton@enter.net> <21d7e9970605281613y3c44095bu116a84a66f5ba1d7@mail.gmail.com> <9e4733910605281759j2e7bebe1h6e3f2bf1bdc3fc50@mail.gmail.com> <20060530223513.GA32267@localhost.localdomain> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1420 Lines: 29 On 5/30/06, Ondrej Zajicek wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 10:40:20AM -0700, David Lang wrote: > > as a long time linux user I tend to not to use the framebuffer, but > > instead use the standard vga text drivers (with X and sometimes dri/drm). > > > > in part this dates back to my early experiances with the framebuffer code > > when it was first introduced, but I still find that the framebuffer is not > > as nice to use as the simpler direct access for text modes. and when I > > start X up it doesn't need a framebuffer, so why suffer with the > > performance hit of the framebuffer? > > Many users want to use text mode for console. But this request is not > in contradiction with fbdev and fbcon. It just requires to do some work: My thoughts are mixed on continuing to support text mode for anything other than initial boot/install. Linux is all about multiple languages and the character ROMs for text mode don't support all of these languages. Moving towards only bitmapped consoles means that all the Unicode languages can be made available with a standard API. This is an area that deserves more discussion. -- Jon Smirl jonsmirl@gmail.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/