Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965113AbWEaTYR (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 May 2006 15:24:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965114AbWEaTYR (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 May 2006 15:24:17 -0400 Received: from witte.sonytel.be ([80.88.33.193]:29911 "EHLO witte.sonytel.be") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965113AbWEaTYR (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 May 2006 15:24:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:24:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: "Antonino A. Daplas" cc: Ondrej Zajicek , Linux Kernel Development Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts In-Reply-To: <447CD367.5050606@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200605272245.22320.dhazelton@enter.net> <9e4733910605272027o7b59ea5n5d402dabdd7167cb@mail.gmail.com> <200605280112.01639.dhazelton@enter.net> <21d7e9970605281613y3c44095bu116a84a66f5ba1d7@mail.gmail.com> <9e4733910605281759j2e7bebe1h6e3f2bf1bdc3fc50@mail.gmail.com> <20060530223513.GA32267@localhost.localdomain> <447CD367.5050606@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1909 Lines: 43 On Wed, 31 May 2006, Antonino A. Daplas wrote: > Ondrej Zajicek wrote: > > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 10:40:20AM -0700, David Lang wrote: > >> as a long time linux user I tend to not to use the framebuffer, but > >> instead use the standard vga text drivers (with X and sometimes dri/drm). > >> > >> in part this dates back to my early experiances with the framebuffer code > >> when it was first introduced, but I still find that the framebuffer is not > >> as nice to use as the simpler direct access for text modes. and when I > >> start X up it doesn't need a framebuffer, so why suffer with the > >> performance hit of the framebuffer? > > > > Many users want to use text mode for console. But this request is not > > in contradiction with fbdev and fbcon. It just requires to do some work: > > > > 1) To extend fbcon to be able to handle framebuffer in text mode. > > And it can be done. The matrox driver in 2.4 can do just that. For 2.6, > we have tileblitting which is a drawing method that can handle pure text. > None of the drivers use this, but vgacon can be trivially written as a > framebuffer driver that uses tileblitting (instead of the default bitblit). > > I believe that there was a vgafb driver before that does exactly what you > want. Indeed. Early 2.1.x had a vgafb and an fbcon-vga, before vgacon existed in its current form. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/