Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751638AbWHAOd0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:33:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751630AbWHAOd0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:33:26 -0400 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:48340 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751637AbWHAOdZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:33:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:33:16 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: "Vladimir V. Saveliev" Cc: vda.linux@googlemail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Reiserfs-List@namesys.com Subject: Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs? Message-Id: <20060801073316.ee77036e.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <1154431477.10043.55.camel@tribesman.namesys.com> References: <1158166a0607310226m5e134307o8c6bedd1f883479c@mail.gmail.com> <20060801013104.f7557fb1.akpm@osdl.org> <44CEBA0A.3060206@namesys.com> <1154431477.10043.55.camel@tribesman.namesys.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2399 Lines: 56 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:24:37 +0400 "Vladimir V. Saveliev" wrote: > > >The writeout code is ugly, although that's largely due to a mismatch between > > >what reiser4 wants to do and what the VFS/MM expects it to do. > > Yes. reiser4 writeouts atoms. Most of pages get into atoms via > sys_write. But pages dirtied via shared mapping do not. They get into > atoms in reiser4's writepages address space operation. It think you mean ->writepage - reiser4 desn't implement ->writepages(). I assume you considered hooking into ->set_page_dirty() to do the add-to-atom thing earlier on? We'll merge mm-tracking-shared-dirty-pages.patch into 2.6.19-rc1, which would make that approach considerably more successful, I expect. ->set_page_dirty() is a bit awkward because it can be called under spinlock. Maybe comething could also be gained from the new vm_operations_struct.page_mkwrite(), although that's less obvious... > That is why > reiser4_sync_inodes has two steps: on first one it calls > generic_sync_sb_inodes to call writepages for dirty inodes to capture > pages dirtied via shared mapping into atoms. Second step flushes atoms. > > > > > > I agree --- both with it being ugly, and that being part of why. > > > > > If it > > >works, we can live with it, although perhaps the VFS could be made smarter. > > > > > > > > I would be curious regarding any ideas on that. Next time I read > > through that code, I will keep in mind that you are open to making VFS > > changes if it improves things, and I will try to get clever somehow and > > send it by you. Our squalloc code though is I must say the most > > complicated and ugliest piece of code I ever worked on for which every > > cumulative ugliness had a substantive performance advantage requiring us > > to keep it. If you spare yourself from reading that, it is > > understandable to do so. > > > > >I'd say that resier4's major problem is the lack of xattrs, acls and > > >direct-io. That's likely to significantly limit its vendor uptake. > > xattrs is really a problem. That's not good. The ability to properly support SELinux is likely to be important. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/