Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161029AbWHAOwk (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:52:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161028AbWHAOwj (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:52:39 -0400 Received: from blinkenlights.ch ([62.202.0.18]:36021 "EHLO blinkenlights.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161024AbWHAOwj (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:52:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:52:34 +0200 From: Adrian Ulrich To: "Horst H. von Brand" Cc: bernd-schubert@gmx.de, reiserfs-list@namesys.com, jbglaw@lug-owl.de, clay.barnes@gmail.com, rudy@edsons.demon.nl, vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl, ipso@snappymail.ca, reiser@namesys.com, lkml@lpbproductions.com, jeff@garzik.org, tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-Id: <20060801165234.9448cb6f.reiser4@blinkenlights.ch> In-Reply-To: <200608011428.k71ESIuv007094@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <200607312314.37863.bernd-schubert@gmx.de> <200608011428.k71ESIuv007094@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> Organization: Bluewin AG X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-slackware-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1294 Lines: 36 > > While filesystem speed is nice, it also would be great if reiser4.x would be > > very robust against any kind of hardware failures. > > Can't have both. ..and some people simply don't care about this: If you are running a 'big' Storage-System with battery protected WriteCache, Mirroring between 2 Datacenters, snapshotting.. etc.. you don't need your filesystem beeing super-robust against bad sectors and such stuff because: a) You've paid enough money to let the storage care about Hardware issues. b) If your storage is on fire you can do a failover using the mirror. c) And if someone ran dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda you could even rollback your Snapshot. (Btw: i did this once to a Reiser4 filesystem (overwritten about 1.2gb). fsck.reiser4 --rebuild-sb was able to fix it.) ..but what you really need is a flexible and **fast** filesystem: Like Reiser4. (Yeah.. yeah.. i know: ext3 is also flexible and fast.. but Reiser4 simply is *MUCH* faster than ext3 for 'my' workload/application). Regards, Adrian - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/