Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:39:08 -0800 (PST)
From: lost <lost@23.org>
To: Thomas Hood <jdthood@mail.com>
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Subject: Re: What is standing in the way of opening the 2.5 tree?
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sounds like more complication to me.  i personally think both do a great
job at getting the job done.  sure there are problems with any source
tree.  but adding more version numbers and turning kernels over to other
people doesnt seem like the solution for making anything more stable.
using the pre kernels seems to be the way for things to become stable.
what need is there for a 2.5 tree right now?  when linus feels like
opening te 2.5 tree it till happen.  just sit back and wait and enjoy the
ride.  if your too impatient for stability or new source trees remember
this is an open source project.

On 30 Oct 2001, Thomas Hood wrote:

> Linus has waited long enough to open up 2.5 that both he
> and Alan are failing to resist the temptation to make
> destabilizing changes in 2.4, with the result that
> the day of branching is perpetually postponed.
>
> What we have learned from the present experience is that
> no kernel branch is really stable until it is entirely in
> Alan Cox's hands.  Prior to that time, both Linus and Alan
> are in "let's play with this" mode.  This has some benefits.
> I think it's safe to say, though, that having two semi-stable
> branches is inferior to having one stable branch that we
> can rely on and one development branch that we can work on.
>
> Perhaps a better approach in the future would be for Linus
> to turn the kernel over to Alan as of 2.6.0 and to open 2.7.0
> immediately.  That would be an incentive for Linus to refrain
> from calling unstable kernels "stable" ones, and would allow
> Alan to maintain 2.6 with the single aim of increasing
> stability, according to one person's idea of what it takes
> to do that.  Alan's "-ac" kernels would take the place of
> Linus's "pre" kernels.  Linus would no longer produce "pre"
> kernels because he's worse than Alan at maintaining a stable
> kernel (as he admits) and anyway he would be busy with 2.7.
>
> Having suggested, this, I'll remind everyone that Linus
> and Alan can do whatever the hell the like.  Which is
> what I like about Linux.
>
> --
> Thomas Hood
>
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