Subject: Re: What is standing in the way of opening the 2.5 tree?
From: "Sujal Shah" <sshah@progress.com>
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Date: 30 Oct 2001 16:59:25 -0500
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On Tue, 2001-10-30 at 16:39, lost wrote:
> sounds like more complication to me.  i personally think both do a great
> job at getting the job done.  sure there are problems with any source
> tree.  but adding more version numbers and turning kernels over to other
> people doesnt seem like the solution for making anything more stable.
[SNIP]

For my .02, I completely disagree with you.  I'll explain in a minute.

> On 30 Oct 2001, Thomas Hood wrote:
[SNIP]
> > Having suggested, this, I'll remind everyone that Linus
> > and Alan can do whatever the hell the like.  Which is
> > what I like about Linux.
> >

This has to be a strength, to be honest.  I'd take this further by
proposing something else.

<Flame Retardant Suit>

To be honest, I think that any x.y.z kernel is "unstable."  As we move
into a situation with an even larger installed base, I think you're
going to see a third tier become more evident: a) unstable, b) stable,
c) vendor supported.  Quite frankly, if I'm making recommendations to
customers and clients for a linux installation, I typically recommend
for them to go with a vendor supplied kernel and manage it through the
vendor.

So, while I don't appreciate "massive" VM changes in the middle of my
own testing and development :-), I always treat every new kernel
iteration as potentially "unstable" and operate on the "if it ain't
broke, don't fix it" principle on my daily use boxes (unless something
in a Linus or AC changelog looks too tempting ;-)

One can hope that the number of people reading this list plus those
keeping up with most kernel releases know what they're doing, and are a
far smaller number than those people running vendor supplied kernels and
installations.  If this isn't true today, I hope it is true at some
point in the future.

Just my opinion,

Sujal

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