Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030240AbWHDDpq (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:45:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030243AbWHDDpp (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:45:45 -0400 Received: from mms1.broadcom.com ([216.31.210.17]:37642 "EHLO mms1.broadcom.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030240AbWHDDpo convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:45:44 -0400 X-Server-Uuid: F962EFE0-448C-40EE-8100-87DF498ED0EA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH -rt DO NOT APPLY] Fix for tg3 networking lockup Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:45:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1551EAE59135BE47B544934E30FC4FC093FA11@NT-IRVA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> In-Reply-To: <20060804032348.GA16313@thunk.org> Thread-Topic: [PATCH -rt DO NOT APPLY] Fix for tg3 networking lockup thread-index: Aca3dX8GoMaN7wr9QW29OUTK9hjPCAAAbyVQ From: "Michael Chan" To: "Theodore Tso" cc: "David Miller" , herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: SEV=1.1; DFV=A2006080401; IFV=2.0.6,4.0-7; RPD=4.00.0004; RPDID=303030312E30413031303230332E34344432433236362E303031382D422D2F342B574C684A754433704B705975633943514C71513D3D; ENG=IBF; TS=20060804034536; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE; X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006080401_4.00.0004_2.0.6,4.0-7 X-WSS-ID: 68CC1D540HW63185381-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1153 Lines: 26 Theodore Tso wrote: > Parden me for asking a dumb question, but what's being accomplished by > resetting the chip if the system has crashed? Why not reset the chip > when the system reboots and it sees the PCI bus reset? I guess I'm > missing the purpose of the ASF heartbeat; why does the networking chip > need a chip-specific watchdog? > ASF is firmware that monitors the system and sends out alerts whenever certain events happen. So it needs to run before the OS boots or after it has crashed. When the driver is up and running, the driver and ASF run independently sending and receiving traffic on the same wire. Of course, the bandwidth that is used by ASF is a very tiny fraction of the host traffic. If the system crashes, the FIFO and other resources on the NIC will be backed up and ASF can no longer function without resetting the chip. As David explained, ASF is only used on servers. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/