Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751435AbWHFALL (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:11:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751445AbWHFALK (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:11:10 -0400 Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.203]:45682 "HELO smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751435AbWHFALI (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:11:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:11:05 -0700 From: Chris Wedgwood To: dean gaudet Cc: David Lang , Mark Fasheh , Arjan van de Ven , Dave Kleikamp , Christoph Hellwig , Valerie Henson , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Akkana Peck , Jesse Barnes , jsipek@cs.sunysb.edu, Al Viro Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Relative lazy atime Message-ID: <20060806001105.GA20715@tuatara.stupidest.org> References: <20060803063622.GB8631@goober> <20060805122537.GA23239@lst.de> <1154797123.12108.6.camel@kleikamp.austin.ibm.com> <1154797475.3054.79.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060805183609.GA7564@tuatara.stupidest.org> <20060805222247.GQ29686@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1027 Lines: 25 On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 04:28:29PM -0700, dean gaudet wrote: > i can't understand when atime is *ever* reliable... root doing > backups with something like rsync will cause atimes to change. well, rsync and friends could use O_NOATIME, but usually that isn't worth the pain > you can work around mutt's silly dependancy on atime by configuring > it with --enable-buffy-size. so far mutt is the only program i've > discovered which cares about atime. i've seen other applications use it, but most are pretty tolerant about it not working that way you might think it would > also -- i wasn't aware that xfs tried to do a better job with atime > updates... i'm not sure it's really that effective. i've got a > busy shell/mail/web server OT, you might fine ikeep helps a little - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/