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Date:   Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:24:56 -0600
From:   Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To:     Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
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Subject: Re: For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page
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On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 01:11:33AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:03 AM Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:34:51PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > On 9/30/20 5:03 PM, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 01:07:38PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > > >>        ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
> > > >>        │FIXME                                                │
> > > >>        ├─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
> > > >>        │From my experiments,  it  appears  that  if  a  SEC‐ │
> > > >>        │COMP_IOCTL_NOTIF_RECV   is  done  after  the  target │
> > > >>        │process terminates, then the ioctl()  simply  blocks │
> > > >>        │(rather than returning an error to indicate that the │
> > > >>        │target process no longer exists).                    │
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I think Christian wanted to fix this at some point,
> > >
> > > Do you have a pointer that discussion? I could not find it with a
> > > quick search.
> > >
> > > > but it's a
> > > > bit sticky to do.
> > >
> > > Can you say a few words about the nature of the problem?
> >
> > I remembered wrong, it's actually in the tree: 99cdb8b9a573 ("seccomp:
> > notify about unused filter"). So maybe there's a bug here?
> 
> That thing only notifies on ->poll, it doesn't unblock ioctls; and
> Michael's sample code uses SECCOMP_IOCTL_NOTIF_RECV to wait. So that
> commit doesn't have any effect on this kind of usage.

Yes, thanks. And the ones stuck in RECV are waiting on a semaphore so
we don't have a count of all of them, unfortunately.

We could maybe look inside the wait_list, but that will probably make
people angry :)

Tycho