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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o22si3775638edr.356.2020.10.03.10.48.32; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 10:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@infradead.org header.s=merlin.20170209 header.b=laNE3xKf; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725807AbgJCRr2 (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 3 Oct 2020 13:47:28 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:52164 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725798AbgJCRr2 (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Oct 2020 13:47:28 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:10b:1231::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 219A6C0613D0; Sat, 3 Oct 2020 10:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=q3vIRNxwue09o5j0ePMASMuF4lATCofRnWcR35oy51g=; b=laNE3xKf5FYMx/+6rp8A5/Cr3H 9CzqgaCHmRQz8S1heipgJFiNlytC3OEXbYXJD8oVdzhrKI7zRbTuASIwUJ4aduVloxkfHYhWu2q7h QY2Psr099ap9bK0mbU/WhsTYWvolv4MOS1EHbAqP2NAhMvlOyYorcSW9VemycU9NWZ2ASS/PH7E18 KNNylDe2XhDN/pHxJd3hFNeYG9DsB+2od5f6UyBtvEgYxxXQO4RNx0p+GAnBhmQohcx2JnpnMAD8e YHcxqDCACoNIDl3FeZowGakETB7cpc77sqD678agyRHFfcxt/ZYchE5w74js13XVY9PZTH7vQTUPq +wUG3Gbw==; Received: from [2601:1c0:6280:3f0::2c9a] by merlin.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kOlcy-0002Ox-Um; Sat, 03 Oct 2020 17:47:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 08/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers check the taint flag To: Thorsten Leemhuis , Jonathan Corbet Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <8129d3a7-3649-b9cc-1615-402f12ee370a@infradead.org> From: Randy Dunlap Message-ID: <05d06d89-ee79-f551-35a4-616eb3864e95@infradead.org> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 10:47:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10/3/20 2:56 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Many thx for you comments. Consider all the obvious spelling and > grammatical mistakes you pointed out fixed, I won't mention all of them > in this reply to keep things easier to follow. > > Am 02.10.20 um 19:08 schrieb Randy Dunlap: >> On 10/1/20 1:39 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >>> +driver, VirtualBox, or other software that installs its own kernel modules: you >>> +will have to remove these modules and reboot the system, as they might in fact >>> +be causing the issue you face. >> You will need to reboot the system and try to reproduce the issue without loading >> any of these proprietary modules. > > Hmmm. Preventing the Nvidia module from loading without disabling or > uninstalling the other parts of the graphics driver can easily to a > situation where the GUI is not starting. And blacklisting all modules > that VirtualBox needs on the host requires quite a bit of tying at the > boot loader iirc. So how about this: > > Quite a few kernels are also tainted because an unsuitable kernel module > was loaded. This for example is the case if you use Nvidia's proprietary > graphics driver, VirtualBox, or other software that installs its own > kernel modules, as they might be causing the issue you face. You thus > have to prevent those modules from loading for the reporting process. > Most of the time the easiest way to do that is: temporarily uninstall > such software including any modules they might have installed. > Afterwards reboot. Sure, OK. thanks. -- ~Randy