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McKenney" To: Alan Stern Cc: Luc Maranget , Akira Yokosawa , parri.andrea@gmail.com, will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, dlustig@nvidia.com, joel@joelfernandes.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Bug in herd7 [Was: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro] Message-ID: <20201005191801.GF29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <20201001045116.GA5014@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20201001161529.GA251468@rowland.harvard.edu> <20201001213048.GF29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20201003132212.GB318272@rowland.harvard.edu> <045c643f-6a70-dfdf-2b1e-f369a667f709@gmail.com> <20201003171338.GA323226@rowland.harvard.edu> <20201005151557.4bcxumreoekgwmsa@yquem.inria.fr> <20201005155310.GH376584@rowland.harvard.edu> <20201005165223.GB29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20201005181949.GA387079@rowland.harvard.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20201005181949.GA387079@rowland.harvard.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 02:19:49PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 09:52:23AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 11:53:10AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > > > I tested the new commit -- it does indeed fix the problem. > > > > Beat me to it, very good! ;-) > > > > But were you using the crypto-control-data litmus test? > > I was not. The test I used was what you get by starting from the > version of crypto-control-data that had the one-liner in P1, and then > replacing P0 with: > > P0(int *x, int *y) > { > int r1; > > r1 = READ_ONCE(*x); > smp_mb(); > WRITE_ONCE(*y, 1); > } > > Without the new commit this test is allowed; with the new commit it > isn't (as we would expect). Also, the graphical output from herd7 shows > the data dependency in P1 with the commit, and doesn't show it without > the commit. > > > That one still > > gets me Sometimes: > > > > $ herd7 -version > > 7.56+02~dev, Rev: 0f3f8188a326d5816a82fb9970fcd209a2678859 > > $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg ~/paper/scalability/LWNLinuxMM/litmus/manual/kernel/crypto-control-data.litmus > > Test crypto-control-data Allowed > > States 2 > > 0:r1=0; > > 0:r1=1; > > Ok > > Witnesses > > Positive: 1 Negative: 4 > > Condition exists (0:r1=1) > > Observation crypto-control-data Sometimes 1 4 > > Time crypto-control-data 0.00 > > Hash=10898119bac87e11f31dc22bbb7efe17 > > > > Or did I mess something up? > > You didn't mess up anything. That's the whole point of this litmus > test: It should be forbidden because it is an example of OOTA, but LKMM > allows it. Even with Luc's new commit. OK, got it. Aside from naming and comment, how about my adding the following? Thanx, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ C crypto-control-data-1 (* * LB plus crypto-mb-data plus data. * * Result: Never * * This is an example of OOTA and we would like it to be forbidden. * If you want herd7 to get the right answer, you must use herdtools * 0f3f8188a326 (" [herd] Fix dependency definition") or later. *) {} P0(int *x, int *y) { int r1; r1 = READ_ONCE(*x); smp_mb(); WRITE_ONCE(*y, r1); } P1(int *x, int *y) { int r2; WRITE_ONCE(*x, READ_ONCE(*y)); } exists (0:r1=1)