Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751007AbWHIQd7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751002AbWHIQd7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:59 -0400 Received: from pasmtpb.tele.dk ([80.160.77.98]:6627 "EHLO pasmtp.tele.dk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750740AbWHIQd6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:33:27 +0200 From: Sam Ravnborg To: Sergei Steshenko Cc: Benoit Fouet , Gene Heskett , alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] another in kernel alsa update that breaks backward compatibilty? Message-ID: <20060809163327.GB12571@mars.ravnborg.org> References: <200608091140.02777.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20060809184658.2bdfb169@comp.home.net> <44DA05C9.5050600@purplelabs.com> <20060809160043.GA12571@mars.ravnborg.org> <20060809191748.7550edaa@comp.home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060809191748.7550edaa@comp.home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1575 Lines: 42 On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 07:17:48PM +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:00:43 +0200 > Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 05:56:57PM +0200, Benoit Fouet wrote: > > > > > > > >Demand stable ABI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry for the noise, but it's been a while now since i began reading > > > mails from this list, and i must admit i don't always (never?) see the > > > point of such messages... > > > if you can help me understand, i'll be very happy to get something more > > > detailed from you... > > Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt > > > > Sam > > > > I love senselessness and technical incompetence of the document. > > As I was taught at school, to prove that a statement is wrong one > has to prove that it is wrong once. > > Regardless of what the document says stable ABI can be achieved > today - run a chosen Linux kernel version + chosen ALSA version under XEN or > similar, and assign sound card to these (chosen Linux kernel version + > chosen ALSA version). Your focus is on user<->kernel API. The document is about kernel internal API. Thats two different things and it was not clear if the first poster was pointing at one or the other. user<->kernel API is supposed to be stable - if ALSA breaks that then ALSA has something to fix. Sam - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/