Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:6744:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id w4csp640739pxu; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:35:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzUXcabHvgNXFTR2T1g4W5Kh9O1fwcwx51E6+uqvA/OYp0qGHjATKxc9F9FDHKSsiWAJxlT X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:660f:: with SMTP id b15mr2924685ejp.333.1603470919447; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:35:19 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1603470919; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=rC/QJjHF7pAlX/7oNg8Egxf5q6JHDXmbsji5X80TCOcCUKY04Y6q92jFfDoUPgThP9 Rv2Wcc8CtJYCCYzEEThbWdAbHWzT7qiQWhR0W8LdTdXOkBKO1A9JIX7JYItf7QXV5Mys sC7wkqHBzPi1JKXJ4fAXXWVk3bP4d3bPH4rEGI/eIJvi5u4XPf3jHj+OlIki+38xKrZE 9J1GW42fxKJz9uJOSbvE/y6ZwaMhJIWf8Uld3eIYQDrKvV9CwhFaEUny7muBTL1OgTwV lyEAMzOrzb8B8BlldBCETtoGgnFq57cZzm2wy7jWVq1QzSrn/p5SoP3t6n+O6ZysTqWc +eow== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:message-id:date:subject:cc:to:from; bh=ms1kXbhkCiOttETKI3we5m6DQKk0ZoTtgaQRWxI/Qzw=; b=pRjRjPt8IuSVr2YzR7tBe2Qr1rQCt47uwgDPqR0JwfonppaHeOxALYF6DR2Bt8Jhlv GHtvAR9fUwiG8HrEX+Zvr+7kRle6dbGkaDHe2JLvDZV+W493u3osyMICPmJjvdqn91OK 2u0wxvkPlsV+Gs5brcd5DK1OpBWRKbr4m2ewolmjZtED382Y8DxiWhkf9mganReB1Nc2 CeFDLrpSYoXhPOW/3NbivEDKm6D1rMqtKiecQFi0isAdTBDDCrDm5CnmEgs1939hBEHy LGNdQW/9KCGWm6wnfAmfBUNHIG+ORKIu9Iq5VveYH6mX7uAyh8bA7aapxePi/QTXglJ3 EeSQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i14si1143974eje.464.2020.10.23.09.34.57; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S465534AbgJWPGO (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:06:14 -0400 Received: from cloudserver094114.home.pl ([79.96.170.134]:56046 "EHLO cloudserver094114.home.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S465518AbgJWPGM (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Oct 2020 11:06:12 -0400 Received: from 89-64-88-190.dynamic.chello.pl (89.64.88.190) (HELO kreacher.localnet) by serwer1319399.home.pl (79.96.170.134) with SMTP (IdeaSmtpServer 0.83.491) id 124138861e9212dc; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 17:06:09 +0200 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Viresh Kumar Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Julia Lawall , Mel Gorman , Ingo Molnar , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli , Vincent Guittot , Dietmar Eggemann , Steven Rostedt , Ben Segall , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Valentin Schneider , Gilles Muller , srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 17:06:08 +0200 Message-ID: <2251006.PXaUfaNY4o@kreacher> In-Reply-To: <20201023061246.irzbrl62baoawmqv@vireshk-i7> References: <1603211879-1064-1-git-send-email-Julia.Lawall@inria.fr> <34115486.YmRjPRKJaA@kreacher> <20201023061246.irzbrl62baoawmqv@vireshk-i7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday, October 23, 2020 8:12:46 AM CEST Viresh Kumar wrote: > On 22-10-20, 13:45, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:47:03 PM CEST Viresh Kumar wrote: > > > And I am not really sure why we always wanted this backup performance > > > governor to be there unless the said governors are built as module. > > > > Apparently, some old drivers had problems with switching frequencies fast enough > > for ondemand to be used with them and the fallback was for those cases. AFAICS. > > Do we still need this ? For the reasonably modern hardware, I don't think so. > Or better ask those platforms to individually > enable both of them. Bu who knows what they are? :-)