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I figured low-power was going to be cool so combined them. >> I could call it low-power-cool if that helps? It seems a little clunky but not too bad. I'm sure the user space folks can put sunglasses on it or something ;) > > IIRC we already had this discussion, cool means cool-to-touch, so could be done by > e.g. extra aggressive ramping up of the fans, so this is not necessarily the same > as low-power. > > Yes this is all somewhat confusing. Luckily (for us kernel folks) we have already > sorta decided to just use the profile-names from the vendors more or less as is and > leave figuring this out further to userspace. > > The reason to use the enum + try to have a fixed list of choices is to try and > limit the proliferation of profile-names to keep things somewhat manageable. > > But as I discussed previously with Elia (*) we really need all 3 of low-power > cool and quiet. > > Regards, > > Hans > > > > *) I was coming at this discussion from the same angle you (Mark) are > OK, I can add a cool option. I'll get that out later today (unless Elia corrects me :)) Thanks all Mark